Winnebago Vista 27N - Cargo Capacity?

[VAWinger]

Looking at the Winnebago Vista 27N. I cannot find any specs on the dry weight (unloaded weight) or cargo capacity on any of the Winny Vistas.

We have been looking at class C's in the 30' range, but most seem to be maxxed out on GVWR not leaving much for cargo and passengers. That's what led us to look at some smaller Class A's. Can anyone tell me where to find the Net Cargo Capacity or Unloaded Vehicle Weight on the Vistas?

[Effy]

Chris F wrote:
Effy, the GCWR (coach plus trailer or toad) for the 27N is 23,000 pounds. With a UVW of 15,100 pounds (thanks, Tom!), the difference is 7900 pounds. However -

the hitch is rated for a maximum of 5000 pounds,
the tongue weight is limited to 500 pounds,
the tongue weight must be subtracted from the GVWR, and
the tongue weight must be subtracted from the GAWR (rear axle weight limit of 12,000 pounds.

Clear as mud, right?

Yep, thanks. Some of these calcs get confusing when trying to arrive at CCC vs towing etc.

[Chris_F]

Effy, the GCWR (coach plus trailer or toad) for the 27N is 23,000 pounds. With a UVW of 15,100 pounds (thanks, Tom!), the difference is 7900 pounds. However -

the hitch is rated for a maximum of 5000 pounds,
the tongue weight is limited to 500 pounds,
the tongue weight must be subtracted from the GVWR, and
the tongue weight must be subtracted from the GAWR (rear axle weight limit of 12,000 pounds.

Clear as mud, right?

[Effy]

kd7cxg-2 wrote:
VAWinger

I have the Itasca Sunstar 27N (same as the Vista 27N). The tag under the drivers side window states: The combined weight of occupants and cargo must never exceed 2906 lbs. A full load of water = 674 lbs of cargo. With a GVWR of 18,000lbs that would make the UVW approx. 15,100lbs, this would include a full tank of fuel.

Hope this helps. We really like our 27N

Tom

Curious , how do those weights affect towing capacity?

[VAWinger]

kd7cxg-2 wrote:
VAWinger

I have the Itasca Sunstar 27N (same as the Vista 27N). The tag under the drivers side window states: The combined weight of occupants and cargo must never exceed 2906 lbs. A full load of water = 674 lbs of cargo. With a GVWR of 18,000lbs that would make the UVW approx. 15,100lbs, this would include a full tank of fuel.

Hope this helps. We really like our 27N

Tom

Tom,
Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. That's about what I was expecting, but good to get some confirmation. The 27N is leading the pack right now for the next rig.

[wildtoad]

kd7cxg-2 wrote:
VAWinger

I have the Itasca Sunstar 27N (same as the Vista 27N). The tag under the drivers side window states: The combined weight of occupants and cargo must never exceed 2906 lbs. A full load of water = 674 lbs of cargo. With a GVWR of 18,000lbs that would make the UVW approx. 15,100lbs, this would include a full tank of fuel.

Hope this helps. We really like our 27N

Tom

Thanks for posting this. It helps me.... Does not seem to be much concern in regards to overloading for us. Rarely travel with more than a few gallons of fresh, empty holding tanks. I'll just have to tell the wife not to load up on rocks. RIP Lucy.

[kd7cxg-2]

VAWinger

I have the Itasca Sunstar 27N (same as the Vista 27N). The tag under the drivers side window states: The combined weight of occupants and cargo must never exceed 2906 lbs. A full load of water = 674 lbs of cargo. With a GVWR of 18,000lbs that would make the UVW approx. 15,100lbs, this would include a full tank of fuel.

Hope this helps. We really like our 27N

Tom

[rjstractor]

VAWinger wrote:
I know the UVW will vary depending on options - really just looking for ballpark. 500 lbs. or 5,000 lbs.?

You of course would have to look at a weight sticker to be sure, but if we compare GVWR and to a comparably sized E450 based C, I think you can virtually guarantee you will have excellent cargo and passenger weight capacity with the smaller Vistas. The F53 chassis has a GVWR that exceeds the E450 by 3500 pounds. Although the Vista may have a higher UVW than a comparably sized C, I doubt it could be by much. I would say the Vista has a weight capacity of at least 3000 pounds.

[Nutinelse2do]

Hi
We just looked at one at an RV show here is October. If you call the number below, you might be able to find a sales rep go out on their lot and get you your information. You are looking for the Vista WFE-27N correct? The Itasca SunStar IFE-27N is almost exactly the same. They had several of both of them in October.
Great looking little coaches with a lot of storage.
480-615-5000
Good luck
Cheryl

[VAWinger]

I know the UVW will vary depending on options - really just looking for ballpark. 500 lbs. or 5,000 lbs.?

[wildtoad]

Any of you owners of a 27N care to post what your label says? While it is true that all of the labels will depend on exact options, it would give a general idea. Thanks in advance for the info.

[Chris_F]

PawPaw_n_Gram wrote:
I am not really finding a typical UVW or Empty Weight listed in the specs of almost any Class A or Class C - from low end to million dollar DP units.

GVWR, GCWR and Axle Loads are about all the weights I can find.

These vehicles are subject to similar weight reporting regulations as those for cars and trucks. The Vista Manualshows the "Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity" label required for all Class A units on page 1-3. The carrying capacity is dependent on what options are included, so you won't find a "general" UVW value

Note that there is an additional label required if the anything weighing more than 100 pounds is added by the dealer. The regulations are pretty tight!

I have found the OCCC's for the coaches I am interested in by looking at the labels in the actual units. If you can't find a 27N nearby, you might be able to get the information from Winnebago if you specify the options.

[PawPaw_n_Gram]

I am not really finding a typical UVW or Empty Weight listed in the specs of almost any Class A or Class C - from low end to million dollar DP units.

GVWR, GCWR and Axle Loads are about all the weights I can find.

[wildtoad]

I'd be interested in the UVW as well.

[sch911]

Spec sheets are right here on the Winnebago Site. Although they don't usually list the dry weight due to that being different for every vehicle depending on option content.