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pulsar
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Jul 31, 2013

Google misleads on Nexus 7 success.

Personal note first: I've been boondocking most of the summer - North Woods of Wisconsin and a lot of Montana - and have rarely had an Internet connection. I will be traveling again tomorrow and have no idea whether or not I will have a connection. So I may not be able to respond to comments.

Google caught using misleading report to claim Nexus 7 outsold iPad in Japan

Google used a market research firm's survey that indicated that the Nexus 7 outsold Apple's iPad in Japan. They ignored the fact that the market research firm did not consider iPads sold from either of the Apple's 7 stores in Japan, ignore iPad sold by the telecom giants SoftBank and KDDI. The survey seems to have omitted online sales.

IDC, the research firm most often cited reported that during the time frame of the other survey, there were 732 thousand iPads shipped to only 350 thousand Nexus 7s shipped in Japan.

Tom
  • I apologize in advance, but why would this be interesting to anyone?
    Marketers market. Surprise!
    With all of that said, the Google platform does out sell the Apple platform every single day of the year (except when the new, must have iPhone 4, 5, 6, 7...... is released).
  • In all honesty, sales numbers have never influenced my decision to buy a particular tablet. Though I routinely use both iPads and Android tablets, I chose an Android tablet for personal use as I feel it's a better value overall. It can also multitask, which Apple mobile iOS can't and its weakest omission IMO. It's especially annoying at work, as most iPad apps I use are basically designed for wireless control of pro media equipment. Any time I have to maneuver away from the app or if the iPad goes into standby to conserve power, I have to completely re-start that specific equipment app, which needs to re-establish a separate wireless connection with that device. This is not anywhere near an instant process, though likely takes only 8-10 secs. More frustrating than anything else as it breaks the work flow.

    With my Android tablet, I can just power back on from standby. Unlock the screen. And I'm right back in my app where I left off.
  • Bill.Winegard wrote:
    I apologize in advance, but why would this be interesting to anyone?
    Marketers market. Surprise!
    With all of that said, the Google platform does out sell the Apple platform every single day of the year (except when the new, must have iPhone 4, 5, 6, 7...... is released).


    Your first sentence makes my point. Google is a disreputable company, that has gathered more information about each of us than, possibly, the NSA, and few seem to care.

    They mislead about the big things and about the small things. When they introduced Chromecast, they announced that the OS was a stripped down ChromeOS, which had been produced for Chrome notebooks. Turns out, the OS for Chromecast is actually a modified Android TV, which has android kernel. Why would they feel the need to mislead about the Chromecast OS. Perhaps, it is just in their culture.

    In Google's privacy guide, Safari users were advised that they need to do nothing to opt out of advertising cookies. "Safari is set by default to block all third-party cookies. If you have not changed those settings, this option effectively accomplishes the same thing." With that said, Google then hacked Safari, so that third-party advertising cookies could be placed on Safari users' computers. Although Google insisted that it was accidental, the FTC levied their largest fine ever; they took it to be a deliberate violation of a previous privacy settlement.


    Google's Buzz debacle - in early 2010, Google introduced a feature that compiles a list of the Gmail contacts who users most frequently e-mail or chat with. Buzz automatically starts following these people and makes the list public, meaning strangers can see who Buzz users have been in contact with. Google apologized.

    In May, 2010, Google admitted that it had been "mistakenly collecting samples " of user browsing data sent over unencrypted Wi-Fi networks such as e-mail, user passwords and browsing history. The piece of programming code used to grab user data was from an "experimental WiFi project," and Google says the code was inadvertently added to Google's Street View data collection software. Google apologized.

    In mid January 2012, a Kenyan start up company, Mocality, learned that for months Google had attempted to undermine its business by lying to its customers and improperly mining its data. Google apologized.

    And few seem to care.

    Although there are more android devices sold than iOS devices, only one company, Samsung, makes any money from selling Android smartphones. All of the others report losses on their smartphone business. Google makes almost no money on the android platform - $550 million for the years 2008 through 2011, as discovered in one of the Apple-Samsung cases. In that case it was revealed that 80% of Google's mobile ad revenue comes from iOS devices.

    One could go on, but it is time to travel.

    Tom
  • I am guessing you don't own anything that's been touched by Google?
    Love my Samsung G3!
  • Tom, I agree with most of your points, although I would gladly settle for 1% of their almost nothing.
  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
    Explorer III
    I have to agree with Winegard Bill... Why are you surprised that an Ad man stretched the truth a bit, Used a faulty study or outright lied.

    That is what they do after all.
  • pulsar wrote:


    Your first sentence makes my point. Google is a disreputable company, that has gathered more information about each of us than, possibly, the NSA, and few seem to care.


    If you are only worried about Google, then you are very naive. Marketing data has been gathered on Americans since at least the '30s. Do you use a credit card? Do you have any customer loyalty cards? And of course you use the Internet. Read up on how Target gathers and uses marketing data. In the '80s I used to work in the direct mail advertising industry. It is mind boggling the amount of data that marketing departments have on us. And that was well before the Internet. Unless you live in the wilderness off the grid, everything anyone needs to know about you is already out there without Google's help. Google is just doing what all the others have been doing all along.
  • I bought myself a Nexus7 in Dec for my Christmas to myself. Used it on a trip to Mexico / Belize, Camping for a month in the keys using WiFi, and almost daily to read books. In Jan my GF was using it so much I bought her one too. Both purchases based on consumers reviews and reviews on places like CNET. We love them. Just kind of wish I had bought the 10inch instead of 7inch. Apple products are good also and also overpriced overhyped in my opinion.
  • And the point of all this is..........?
    Should we not use google or ny google product?

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