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old_guy
Explorer
Explorer
I had problems with my google and got rid of it since then I have been using firefox. what a sad experience. I finally got google to download again and am so glad to have it back. I went into the control panel and deleted firefox but I would like to know if there is any thing else I need to do. I have heard that firefox is loaded with malware so do I have to do any thing to protect my computer? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks
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tatest
Explorer II
Explorer II
Using Firefox on Windows, it doesn't come with malware and I am very selective about add-ons and sources. No Flash for example. If a site insists on a Flash player, I don't need to see it. Using Chrome for managing my Google account and running Chromecast web apps.

Using Safari on the Mac and all iOS devices, with Chrome as a backup browser for those sites that want to do a little bit more than Safari allows, like running Chromecast web apps, though iOS has dedicated apps to most of the web stuff I want to send to the TV screen.

Explorer and Firefox have common roots in the academic predecessor to Netscape (I think of them all as Mozilla) and while each has evolved in its own direction and bloated themselves in different ways, with common roots come some common weaknesses, which is why anyone pushing a new browser tries to tell us it is a "fresh start." They all have to work with the same web protocols, so by the time you get done a lot of it has to be the same. Main advantage of a "fresh start" browser like Safari is that the development team has a better chance of knowing what all the code is supposed to do, rather than having huge pieces of "don't touch that, it's heritage and nobody understands it" forcing you write a new piece to do almost the same thing with a few additions.

Been there, done that, about 15 years trying to maintain and enhance large mapping and GIS codes, while at the same time doing "fresh start" systems to accomplish the same functions on radically new computer computers, graphic workstations replacing batch jobs on mainframes.

Firefox works well enough on Windows that I don't accept Apple's offer to download and install Safari, as well as it works for me in the Apple environment. Too much mixing of user interface metaphors. Which is also a slight problem sometimes bringing Android UI apps like Chrome into either Apple or Windows environments, but Windows keeps changing anyway as MS tacks on Abndroid and Apple features.
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2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
magicbus wrote:
2oldman wrote:
Even google search can't find much on your subject matter.
You googled "google problems" and didn't find much? I'm shocked :E :B
haha..,No, the subject matter I chose was Firefox containing malware.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

magicbus
Explorer
Explorer
2oldman wrote:
Even google search can't find much on your subject matter.
You googled "google problems" and didn't find much? I'm shocked :E :B

Dave
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2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
Even google search can't find much on your subject matter. I don't think FF 'contains' malware.

I've run Chrome for years and can't recall a single problem with it.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
old guy wrote:
I have heard that firefox is loaded with malware so do I have to do any thing to protect my computer? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks


I have never heard that Firefox is loaded with MalWare..What happens is that they have s sponsor who bundles their crapware with Firefox when you download it (unless you override the defaults) Firefox itself is not full of malware.

I run what I call Onion level security (Layer upon layer upon layer) and not one of those layers finds anything wrong with Firefox.

I like the guy who said Google is full of mal-ware but chrome is ok.. Uh,, Chrome is google's browser.

I found Chrome to be a pain in the operating system's exhaust port.

(You will likely understand that statement in about 2 hours.. and when you do.. You will laugh).

By the way.. For Chris.. Google is not full of mal-ware.. Likely one of the cleanest sites on the net,, they have some very good security folks (I knwo some of them). BUT the links... (Those are not on Google) The LINKS often are malware,, Epically if you are using the most popular search terms.

Like a friend of mine did.. He used the single most popular search word and after watching the naughty ladies... he was infected.
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magicbus
Explorer
Explorer
AsheGuy wrote:
Naio wrote:
For me, Chrome crashes at least once a day. Firefox is much better. Neither has malware when downloaded from the official sites.
There is something else going on here.

I have been using Chrome for years on desktops, laptops, netbooks, etc. It never crashes. One of the most stable pieces of software I have ever used.
It's funny reading all of the different experiences. I'm one of those that goes back and forth between Chrome and Firefox depending on who is working better at the time. I have been a user of Google Voice for many years and then last month Chrome suddenly "lost" the Voice plugin and refused to recognize it upon re-installation. After fighting with it for a while I downloaded a copy of the latest Firefox and it recognized the Google Voice plugin immediately. In fact right now I am sitting on a conference call with our BLR development team using Firefox and Google Voice. Go figure...

Dave
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Alan_Hepburn
Explorer
Explorer
I tried Chrome a while ago and hated it. I pay for my bandwidth and Chrome ate it up too quickly. It claims to be fast, and how they work that is to constantly download every web page you might want to visit, so that when you do visit you get the updated page rather than a cached, outdated version. Chrome does this even when it's minimized and unused. When I was using Chrome my bandwidth usage went up by 0ver 20%, putting me over my monthly max. Firefox has been working mostly well for me for over 10 years so I'll stay with it.
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AsheGuy
Explorer
Explorer
Naio wrote:
For me, Chrome crashes at least once a day. Firefox is much better. Neither has malware when downloaded from the official sites.
There is something else going on here.

I have been using Chrome for years on desktops, laptops, netbooks, etc. It never crashes. One of the most stable pieces of software I have ever used.
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owenssailor
Explorer
Explorer
We use Chrome on 2 machines. Rock solid.
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fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
I use Chrome for Facebook, Firefox for most of the surfing I do, and Internet Explorer for Hotmail and non-tracking surfing. They all work fine.
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pconroy328
Explorer
Explorer
Naio wrote:
For me, Chrome crashes at least once a day. Firefox is much better. Neither has malware when downloaded from the official sites.


Chrome was rock solid for me up until a couple of months ago, then it started whacking out on me. Switched to Firefox. I'll stay on FF until it goes wonky then I'll head back to Chrome.

Naio
Explorer II
Explorer II
For me, Chrome crashes at least once a day. Firefox is much better. Neither has malware when downloaded from the official sites.
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coolmom42
Explorer II
Explorer II
old guy wrote:
I had problems with my google and got rid of it since then I have been using firefox. what a sad experience. I finally got google to download again and am so glad to have it back. I went into the control panel and deleted firefox but I would like to know if there is any thing else I need to do. I have heard that firefox is loaded with malware so do I have to do any thing to protect my computer? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks


I think you mean you had Chrome as a browser, right? Google is the company & search engine, Chrome is their browser.

Firefox is not loaded with malware, I use it all the time with no malware issues. It does have some problems working correctly with Adobe Flash, which is very annoying and causes it to crash. That problem has moved me to Chrome part of the time.

I use the free version of Avast anti-virus. Works fine.

Another good software is called malwarebytes, free at malwarebytes.com. Run it about once a week. It's kind of a supplement to Avast, they work a little differently but are a good pair.

The MOST important thing is to exercise some common sense---PAY attention to what you are clicking on. Avoid downloading from random sites, don't click on pop-ups or ads. Stay away from any kind of site that operates in a non-ethical manner--pirated downloads, porn, pyramid schemes, ads with ridiculous claims, celebrity scandal sites, etc. They are very common sources of malware.
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pconroy328
Explorer
Explorer
As a professional nerd, I'm extremely skeptical that either Chrome or Firefox (or Safari or Opera) ships with malware. My fellow nerds may have done something, added some feature that someone else calls 'malware', but it wouldn't fit my definition.

When you download *anything*, **anything**, have your AntiVirus scanner running and updated. Have Malwarebytes running (or Spybot).

Make sure you download the software from a reputable source - it's common for other hacker sites to take a Chrome or Firefox, infect it, and then post it for downloading.


Remember what you pay for some very marvelous software: $0.00.
Caveat Emptor!!!