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- An application as complex as Photoshop is just not going to be usable on a tablet unless it is a Surface Pro and can be used with a keyboard and mouse, with a traditional desktop UI.
I've found my tablet a decent e-reader, and great for watching YouTube and other video content. However, if I am making content, I need a desktop or a laptop. One can't really type a long paper on a touch screen, and with a Bluetooth keyboard and a stand, the screen space is lacking, so a keyboard, mouse, and monitor are the minimum.
For me, I also need a server which runs headless (except for the initial configuration and install) because it is a place I not just stash files and backups, but also virtual machines (I like running my Web browser in a VM so if it gets infected, it won't hose my main computer.) - I have two 30" 2560x1600 monitors, one for my PC and one for my Mac Pro and there is no way I will stop using them. I have a 13.3" Core i7 MacBook Air that is great for mobile use but there is no way it's going to replace my PC and Mac with 30" displays. I also use a Verizon LTE 64GB iPad and Verizon LTE HTC Droid DNA smartphone.
- I would agree with the article to a point. I've owned a few tablets and never did use them much. The bulk of my goofing around online is done with a laptop and a phablet (Galaxy Note 3). For work, I generally turn to my desktop with two 27" monitors. I can do it with a 17" laptop and an external monitor, but it's a lot better with the two big monitors.
The Galaxy Note 3 is okay for doing a lot of things, with some reading glasses for small fonts. The 17" laptop is perfect for reading web sites and some light work. The tablets were interesting at first, my iPad 2 spent much of its life collecting dust. I could never find a compelling reason to pick it up after the first week of playing with it. Eventually, I sold it. - Will releasing a pretty full-fledged touch bersion of MS Office for ios and android (and RT) have any impact on increasing business use of tablets?
- While the Note 12.2 is hoping to break its way into the business market it is not going to happen until there is more software for Android than just the "Office" look-a-like that this Note comes with. The Samsung Note line is good - I have the 10.1. Handwriting recognition works excellently, but it has been a long time since many have used a pen to handwrite anything of length so while the pen has the advantage in marking up documents, making quick notes, or doing graphics work, when it comes to any writing of significance you need a keyboard. The Note is compatible with bluetooth keyboards and this is what I have used with my Note to write documents. But now I am carrying a ten inch tablet and a keyboard of almost equal size. I have begun to think that a Notebook would have been a much better choice - but Notebooks are hard to find lately - and require more data to accomplish the same web tasks as a tablet.
Many businesses use very specialized software packages designed for their industries. Some businesses need to use government approved specific software for their day to day computing. None of these exist in an "app". Android Desktops are nothing more than an elaborate tablet and also do not run the software required by many businesses. They will appeal to kids but not serious PC users or businesses. Look how unpopular the Chromebook is.
Microsoft is finding its Surface tablets do not have the popularity that they hoped for and several months ago announced that the Surface was to be discontinued.
We were in a Sears store in the hardware department and I asked a salesman for a price on something that was not marked. He took out a phone sized tablet loaded with some application to read inventory and even ring up a sale. He tried for five minutes to scan the bar code on the tool and then gave up and walked me over to the cash register where he had a price in ten seconds and then rang up the sale. So much for "progress". He thought the same at the time.
It is hard to get businesses to give up Win XP and Win 7 - they are certainly not going to embrace Android. - Any thoughts on how this new Samsung Note Pro 12.2" tablet will be recieved?
Will it change the way tablets are used in office work?
Does it offer things the MS Surface RT and W8.1 do not have?
Will it lure Apple to go ahead and do a 13" ipad Pro?
If Android on desktops does take off this year as AMD and Intel are posturing, I see work+fun tablets like this addind a wrinkle.
Maybe there are three scenarios:
1. A fixed to desktop computer w/ keyboard/mouse/... and a smartphone
2. One of the new Pro style tablets w/ just the keyboard/mouse/... fixed to a desk (and also one at home) and also a smartphone
3. A fixed monitor and dockstation on desk (and maybe one at home) and a smartphone with all the CPU and software in it. strollin wrote:
docj wrote:
... As a "power user" I find tablets to be "computer--light". I don't find them useful for much more than surfing the web--I can't run Quicken, Photoshop or TurboTax, for example.
Depends on which tablet you get. My newest tablet, a Dell Venue 8 Pro, runs the full version of Windows 8.1 and can run software like Quicken, Photoshop or TurboTax. It even came with the Home and Student version of Office 2013 which includes the full versions of Word, Excel, Power Point and OneNote. Nice little tablet.
That Dell is an electronic Swiss army knife :) Very much what W8 is all about. Things might have been a lot better for MS had such affordable but powerful tab devices been there at the launch of W8.
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The OP article link states that personal computers will primarily be smartphones/phablets or laptops. I would add that smart TVs will fill in for android, ios, and metro-only 'couch toy' tablets.
Looking at apple, it now seems they are not rushing toward a 13" ipad "pro", so poor Samsung's $1000 12.2" Galaxy Pro may turn out to be a prenptive copy-apple misread and perhaps failure. Instead, apple will likely bring in the phablet model w/ a 6" bezel-free iphone.docj wrote:
... As a "power user" I find tablets to be "computer--light". I don't find them useful for much more than surfing the web--I can't run Quicken, Photoshop or TurboTax, for example.
Depends on which tablet you get. My newest tablet, a Dell Venue 8 Pro, runs the full version of Windows 8.1 and can run software like Quicken, Photoshop or TurboTax. It even came with the Home and Student version of Office 2013 which includes the full versions of Word, Excel, Power Point and OneNote. Nice little tablet.- IMHO the mistake with the Nook was giving into consumers who insisted on making an excellent reader into just another tablet. My DW and I each have Sony eReaders both of which have e-Ink technology which makes them incredibly readable in the brightest possible sunlight. I have no interest in a color reader which washes out in sunlight.
As for tablets vs "real" computers, both my DW and I have Dell laptops as well as an iPad and an Android tablet. The two tablet devices hardly ever get used unless the grandchildren are playing games on them. As a "power user" I find tablets to be "computer--light". I don't find them useful for much more than surfing the web--I can't run Quicken, Photoshop or TurboTax, for example. Campfire Time wrote:
wildtoad wrote:
B&N never really knew how to market the Nook against the Kindle or other tablets.
Not true.
My comment was aimed at their marketing. I like my Nook Color and the wife likes her Nook Tablet. She still uses hers in addition to the Mini. I remember watching a few Nook commercials and was frustrated how lame they were. Seemed to focus on the reader function and magazines. It seemed little attention was given to the other features. At the same time Kindle was showing people reading books, surfing the web, playing games, watching movies, AND being less expensive.
