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TV connection from front TV to bedroom class A

Gundog
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Explorer II
I have a Dish Satellite Antena King Tailgator mounted on the roof of our class A. The receiver is in the front of the RV by the large TV. We have a TV in the bedroom and I want to get the signal back to the bedroom.

I don't mind that both TV's get the same channel. This is a 2005 Fleetwood Expedition. I changed out both TV's to flat panel type smart TV's a couple years ago. I have a Coaxial cable that runs to the back bedroom from the area of the Dish receiver. The receiver has HDMI type connections. What is the cheapest way to transmit the dish signal to the bedroom?

I really don't want to try and run a new cable the length of the MH. I am not up on the newest tech. Can I somehow use the coaxial cable? Is there a way to transmit the signal wireless to the bedroom?

Thanks for any suggestions to accomplish this. I keep hearing from the wife you spent all this money for satellite TV and I can't watch anything from the back TV.
2005 34' Expedition Cat C7 Allison 3000
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Gdetrailer
Explorer III
Explorer III
RLS7201 wrote:
Another option is a Dish VIP211K receiver. Yes, it's old school but it has HDMI, RCA and coax outputs. It also has USB for an external hard drive. The coax output is SD. The other 2 are HD. It works for us.
It does run a little warm, so I have a small, quiet, low output USB fan sitting on top of it to move a little air.
Richard


The VIP211K while is still able to be used for DISH, it isn't all that good of an option and finding good working units now days might be a shot in the dark at best.

What you said about "the other 2" being HD, that is misleading.

HDMI is the ONLY FULL HD output.

The RCA outputs are "composite" ANALOG SD 480i NTSC (yellow jack)

The other is Analog COMPONENT video which uses three RCA video connections marked Y, Pg, Pr.. Component video output is LIMITED to a resolution of 720p "HD". While 720p is an slight improvement over the SD 480i outputs, it isn't as good of "HD" as the HDMI output which is 1080i or 1080p..

Both analog composite and analog component inputs on most newer TVs have been removed, TV manufacturers are no longer including any legacy analog inputs, only HDMI inputs. So the reality is, if you wanted to use the component (Y, Pg, Pr) output you would need convert that to HDMI anyways adding another conversion box to the setup.

Basically the setup would be component (Y, Pg, Pr) to HDMI converter, then HDMI to coax, then Coax to HDMI to the TV.. and you would be limited to 720p..

So what, you say..

Well you can get full HD (1080i and 1080p) to the back TV by using a HDMI SPLITTER in the signal chain.

Basically HDMI in to the splitter, one HDMI out goes to front TV, second HDMI out goes to HDMI to coax converter, then coax converter to HDMI to the TV.. And now you can have same video quality as the front TV.

Not to mention, component video is a real pain with a total of 5 wires with 5 connections on each side..

Better to learn to deal with the HDMI quirks now days rather than dig up tire old obsolete equipment and using obsolete analog video.

HDMI splitters work fine..

RLS7201
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Explorer II
Another option is a Dish VIP211K receiver. Yes, it's old school but it has HDMI, RCA and coax outputs. It also has USB for an external hard drive. The coax output is SD. The other 2 are HD. It works for us.
It does run a little warm, so I have a small, quiet, low output USB fan sitting on top of it to move a little air.
Richard
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Gundog
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Explorer II
Thanks for the feedback I am going to give it a whirl and if the picture quality is too degraded I will try and run an HDMI cable.
Thanks Mike
2005 34' Expedition Cat C7 Allison 3000

wa8yxm
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Explorer III
Gundog wrote:
wa8yxm wrote:
The problem is this.. The newer sat receivers are HDMI only for the most part.. NO RF, NO anything else (Some have audio/video)

But the cable to the back is coax

Two choices one is an HDMI to RF adapter the other HDMI-Coax and coax-back to HDMI. (the first (And the first part of the second) are basicaly TV transmitters. the nd part is a special receiver) you can google for e'm.. The prices (Last I checked) were nearing "reasonable"

Very reasonable (16 bucks) But beware that one was HDMI to Coax ANALOG (NTSC)

You really need HDMI to ATSC or QAM Those started around 300


Are you saying the parts I posted will not work?


Based on your descirption of the links.. I think I'm saying they WILL work. I think we said much the same thing
(I spoke of a Transmitter and Receiver combo.. exactly what you describe)
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1995brave
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Gundog what you posted will work fine. That is what I used to setup my hot tub TV. Had RG-6 out to the hot tub and used the HDMI to coax - coax to HDMI converter. I used a different brand that offered IR across the cable so I could change channels from the hot tub.

Gundog
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wa8yxm wrote:
The problem is this.. The newer sat receivers are HDMI only for the most part.. NO RF, NO anything else (Some have audio/video)

But the cable to the back is coax

Two choices one is an HDMI to RF adapter the other HDMI-Coax and coax-back to HDMI. (the first (And the first part of the second) are basicaly TV transmitters. the nd part is a special receiver) you can google for e'm.. The prices (Last I checked) were nearing "reasonable"

Very reasonable (16 bucks) But beware that one was HDMI to Coax ANALOG (NTSC)

You really need HDMI to ATSC or QAM Those started around 300


Are you saying the parts I posted will not work?
2005 34' Expedition Cat C7 Allison 3000

wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
The problem is this.. The newer sat receivers are HDMI only for the most part.. NO RF, NO anything else (Some have audio/video)

But the cable to the back is coax

Two choices one is an HDMI to RF adapter the other HDMI-Coax and coax-back to HDMI. (the first (And the first part of the second) are basicaly TV transmitters. the nd part is a special receiver) you can google for e'm.. The prices (Last I checked) were nearing "reasonable"

Very reasonable (16 bucks) But beware that one was HDMI to Coax ANALOG (NTSC)

You really need HDMI to ATSC or QAM Those started around 300
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
Kenwood TS-2000, ICOM ID-5100, ID-51A+2, ID-880 REF030C most times

Gdetrailer
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Explorer III
Its going to get complicated and expensive at the same time.

You will need a HDMI splitter (1 HDMI in and 2 HDMI out).

You will need HDMI over coax extender/converter set (1 transmitter and 1 receiver).

HERE ($60-$300 depending on model)

You will need extra HDMI patch cables to make the connections..

Output of sat goes into the input of the splitter.

One output of the splitter goes to your front TV near the sat unit.

Other output of the splitter goes to the input of the HDMI to coax converter transmitter.

Coax from the rear is connected to the converter output.

In the rear, the coax from the front connects to the input of the coax receiver.

HDMI out from the Coax receiver converter goes to HDMI input of TV.

Be aware, once you make this change, the rear TV will no longer be able to view any OTA channels from your RV antenna, it will only be able to watch the Sat output.

The cable routed to the back must not have any signal splitters in the path.

Personally, For the money, I would run some "Cat5-Cat6" Ethernet wire from front to back and use HDMI to Ethernet "Cat5-Cat6" converters instead. This allows you to still have the OTA antenna as an option and is a much lower cost option..

HDMI over Ethernet

No computer network involved, the units are just using thin lightweight low cost network wire instead of coax. The cable is cheap and easy to route and the converters start at $30 for a set..

In both cases, I would highly recommend making sure that both the coax or Ethernet converters are not "passive" types, you want the ones that use a power supply on each end.

The passive converters do not work as well and I have had issues with them failing on some long runs for computer projectors.. Solved that problem once I replaced with ones that use a power supply.

I would not recommend RF transmitters and if possible to avoid using them as they can be problematic and expensive..

Gundog
Explorer II
Explorer II
Would this work?

HDMI to Coax then Coax to HDMI


HDMI splitter
2005 34' Expedition Cat C7 Allison 3000

CA_Traveler
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HDMI spiltter then HDMI can be transmitted wireless or over coax with converters, check Amazon etc.
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