tv, DISH question

[swsyko]

We have a 2018 Regency Ultra Broughm, 25 feet

My question is this.

Is it possible to have either a tv source, RV park cable and dish as possible choices when we travel from park to park?

We installed a DISH receiver and now we can't access any of the
3 options above. They first said it was a surge protector problem,
but that didn't work.

If you install Dish to you lose any of the first two?

Neither the manufacturer or the RV retailer has a solid answer.

Does anybody know about this?

Thanks in advance

[Bill_Satellite]

Well, we left Houston on Sunday. That meant that Sunday night, Monday night and Tuesday I would be on the road. It's cold with snow around and I would like to see the local weather and I like watching the local news. I don't need to call anyone to change anything, I just crank up my OTA antenna, watch the news and go back to satellite. Why would I bother with anything else when I need it for about an hour a day?

[Big_Katuna]

Edd505 wrote:
Why would you want OTA or cable if you have satellite? Once I got the sat I never use anything else. I get a guild every time, no surfing to see whats on.

I concur. Since switching to DISH, a phone call gets me locals wherever I go.

The few times I do OTA is extended weather conditions that block signal.

[Edd505]

Why would you want OTA or cable if you have satellite? Once I got the sat I never use anything else. I get a guild every time, no surfing to see whats on.

[Bill_Satellite]

While it is true that the antennas work the same, it is not true that the channels are the same as they were in the analog days. "Back then", channel 7 was broadcast on VHF channel 7. Today we call these "virtual channels" as channel 7 can now be broadcast on VHF 7 (rarely) but can also be broadcast on a variety of UHF channels. So, if your TV scans channel 7 on UHF 35 you will not get channel 7 at the next location if it is being broadcast on any frequency other than UHF 35. What might happen is that you will not get channel 7 but find that you can get channel 20. This happens when the next place you move is broadcasting channel 20 on UHF 35!

[wa8yxm]

CarnationSailor wrote:
Bill.Satellite:

This has been my experience many times:

Pull into campground, run a scan, select channel X with the remote.

Go to another campground that is out of the service area of channel X.

Do not run a scan.

Turn TV on and select channel X. A program with good quality video and audio is displayed.

One thing I keep telling people is the antenna is teh same today as it was in the analog days. The reasons for this is simple. the broadcast frequencies are the same.. For example what used to be Channel 7.. Is still a broadcast channel.. Where I am now it is still Channel 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 But if I go back to Detroit it is 2.1 2.2

So yes what you describe. VERY possible.

[Bill_Satellite]

It's "possible". Apparently you have done it!
Is it likely, No. Unless you are going to campgrounds in the same TV market or going from cable system to cable system that just happen to have the same channel line ups.
I just moved from Houston to Wichita Falls and there were a couple of channels that appeared but without a new scan, but NBC was not there at all until I ran a new scan.
Most OTA TV channels are now broadcast on the UHF band so channel 3 might actually be broadcast on the UHF channel 35. That same channel 35 can be used in multiple markets but it's a **** (dice game) shoot and I have not encountered being able to move from 1 market to the next and find ALL channels.

[CarnationSailor]

To OP:

Sorry for hijacking your thread.

[CarnationSailor]

Bill.Satellite:

This has been my experience many times:

Pull into campground, run a scan, select channel X with the remote.

Go to another campground that is out of the service area of channel X.

Do not run a scan.

Turn TV on and select channel X. A program with good quality video and audio is displayed. It is not the same channel as it was at my previous location, but I did get a channel without doing a scan.

Also, I can arrive at a new rv park and without doing a scan, pull up every channel on the park's cable guide by just selecting the channel on the remote.

Do you still think this is not possible?

[wa8yxm]

I have a rube goldburg system with two DVR's (NOT "Sat" or "Cable" but old stand alone analog DVR's I can pick Park Cable. OTA or Sat (if I hook up a sat receiver) UNDER DVR control and the DVR will choose the input automatically.. But as I said it's a Rube Goldburg system

Now.. Here is the issue.

Most RV's come with a wall plate. this has two choices and 4 antenna connectors
The connectors are (TV-1 (Front exposed connector)
And on the back with the cables runndin DOWN and the 12 volt outlet at the top. readign from LEFT to RIGHT. ANT (To Roof) CABLE and TV-2

Many times when installing a Sat Receriver thery unhook the park cable cable and use it for the sat antenna.> THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING

How I"d do it.. Restore factory wiring so you can use OTA (Rooftop antann) or Park cable. by turning the wall plate on (OTA) or off (Cable).

Run a brand new RG-6 line from a handy point (On my class A it's the brake bell crank bracket under the hood) to the Sat Receiver direct.. NO anything but cable and a grounding block at the mounting point.


And HDMI to the TV

[Bill_Satellite]

CarnationSailor wrote:

Bill.Satellite wrote:

swsyko wrote:
We have a 2018 Regency Ultra Broughm, 25 feet

My question is this.

Is it possible to have either a tv source, RV park cable and dish as possible choices when we travel from park to park?

We installed a DISH receiver and now we can't access any of the
3 options above. They first said it was a surge protector problem,
but that didn't work.

If you install Dish to you lose any of the first two?

Neither the manufacturer or the RV retailer has a solid answer.

Does anybody know about this?

Thanks in advance

Both CABLE and OTA TV should still work exactly as they did before the satellite TV install as these are fed to the TV via coax cable. There is likely a power supply (wall plate) mounted on a wall near the main TV that has an on/off button/switch. This is also the switch between using the Cable or TV input. Power on, OTA TV. Power off, Cable.
The satellite TV input will be via HDMI.
You will have to program each TV for the type programming you want to watch. You use the TV's INPUT option to select and program for the various input. Selecting HDMI should simply get you satellite TV.
Selecting Antenna Input you will then need to select either Antenna or Cable (or similar wording) and then run a channel scan to allow the TV to "find" the actual channels available. You cannot simply enter Channel 3 on your remote and expect Channel 3 to show up unless the TV first found that channel during a search routine.

Regarding your last sentence, you CAN simply enter Channel 3 on your remote and the TV will go to Channel 3. The purpose of the channel scan is to allow the TV to create a list of available channels so you can go from channel to channel using the Channel Up or Channel Down button.

In your example, if you do not do a scan when arriving at your new location (and Channel 3 was not found at your last location), then the UP and DOWN Channel buttons will skip over Channel 3. But you can always access Channel 3 by press the "3" button.

No, that's not correct. If there is a channel 3 available in your area but you have NOT done a channel scan to allow the TV to "find" that channel, nothing will appear when you enter 3 on your remote. You have to understand that channel 3 these days is just a designation and not an actual channel as existed in the old analog days. Today channel 3 could be broadcast on channel 42 in Little Rock, AR, or Channel 3 in Las Vegas or channel 17 in Bend, OR. If the TV does not find that channel, you cannot tune to that channel.

[CarnationSailor]

Bill.Satellite wrote:

swsyko wrote:
We have a 2018 Regency Ultra Broughm, 25 feet

My question is this.

Is it possible to have either a tv source, RV park cable and dish as possible choices when we travel from park to park?

We installed a DISH receiver and now we can't access any of the
3 options above. They first said it was a surge protector problem,
but that didn't work.

If you install Dish to you lose any of the first two?

Neither the manufacturer or the RV retailer has a solid answer.

Does anybody know about this?

Thanks in advance

Both CABLE and OTA TV should still work exactly as they did before the satellite TV install as these are fed to the TV via coax cable. There is likely a power supply (wall plate) mounted on a wall near the main TV that has an on/off button/switch. This is also the switch between using the Cable or TV input. Power on, OTA TV. Power off, Cable.
The satellite TV input will be via HDMI.
You will have to program each TV for the type programming you want to watch. You use the TV's INPUT option to select and program for the various input. Selecting HDMI should simply get you satellite TV.
Selecting Antenna Input you will then need to select either Antenna or Cable (or similar wording) and then run a channel scan to allow the TV to "find" the actual channels available. You cannot simply enter Channel 3 on your remote and expect Channel 3 to show up unless the TV first found that channel during a search routine.

Regarding your last sentence, you CAN simply enter Channel 3 on your remote and the TV will go to Channel 3. The purpose of the channel scan is to allow the TV to create a list of available channels so you can go from channel to channel using the Channel Up or Channel Down button.

In your example, if you do not do a scan when arriving at your new location (and Channel 3 was not found at your last location), then the UP and DOWN Channel buttons will skip over Channel 3. But you can always access Channel 3 by press the "3" button.

[Bill_Satellite]

swsyko wrote:
We have a 2018 Regency Ultra Broughm, 25 feet

My question is this.

Is it possible to have either a tv source, RV park cable and dish as possible choices when we travel from park to park?

We installed a DISH receiver and now we can't access any of the
3 options above. They first said it was a surge protector problem,
but that didn't work.

If you install Dish to you lose any of the first two?

Neither the manufacturer or the RV retailer has a solid answer.

Does anybody know about this?

Thanks in advance

Both CABLE and OTA TV should still work exactly as they did before the satellite TV install as these are fed to the TV via coax cable. There is likely a power supply (wall plate) mounted on a wall near the main TV that has an on/off button/switch. This is also the switch between using the Cable or TV input. Power on, OTA TV. Power off, Cable.
The satellite TV input will be via HDMI.
You will have to program each TV for the type programming you want to watch. You use the TV's INPUT option to select and program for the various input. Selecting HDMI should simply get you satellite TV.
Selecting Antenna Input you will then need to select either Antenna or Cable (or similar wording) and then run a channel scan to allow the TV to "find" the actual channels available. You cannot simply enter Channel 3 on your remote and expect Channel 3 to show up unless the TV first found that channel during a search routine.

[Johno02]

I have two TVs, one in front, and one in bedrooom. I can use Satellite, cable, DVD or OTR antenna, on either or both, whichever we chose to use. But I did my own wiring, using cabling that was already installed by builder. HDMI is not necessary, but properly wired, it can help. BTW, High def TV works just as good on coax as it does on HDMI cable.

[Big_Katuna]

You need a tv with three or more HDMI inputs and a tuner with co-ax input.
The DISH box connects to a HDMI input.
The park cable connects to the coax input. If you want to include OTA (Antenna), add an A/B switch.
DVD player in second HDMI.
Some cable signals require a box which would have HDMI out to third HDMI input.

Use TV remote to change inputs.

If your tv has sound output it can go to a surround system or sound bar.