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llmillerjr
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Aug 13, 2013

2009 Ford F250 pulling Montana 3625RE????

I know there's lot of discussions around "what can my truck pull", but I thought I would ask....

Is anyone currently pulling the combination of:

Truck - 2009 F250 Crew Cab 4X4
5th Wheel - 2013 Montana 325RE

Specs for 3625RE
Shipping Weight 12751
Carrying Capacity 3019
Hitch 2270

The wife really likes the 5th wheel...Just wondering if I have enough truck.

Thanks everyone!
  • dbbls wrote:
    Certainly you can pull it. But can you stop it safely? You will be exceeding the specs for the truck, particularly the pin weight. This will cause abnormal wear on the brakes.


    Are the brakes not the same size as the 09 F350? To the OP, it's your money and your comfort zone but look very closely at the components on your current truck and see if the difference between f250 and f350 (if any) are worth the cost and hassle of replacing the vehicle. Ford rates both at the same towing capacities. Payload numbers for the f250 are completely arbitrary and are deflated for registration purposes.
  • Thanks everyone...I guess I have two options. 1) Trade for a truck that can pull this 5th wheel or 2) Start looking for a 5th wheel I can pull.

    Thanks again!
  • You might look into the Montana High Country 355RE. Somewhat similar, but not exactly the same floor plan. But the High Country line is quite a bit lighter in weight than the main Montana line.
    Also check over on the Montana Owners Club web site for more info.
  • Certainly you can pull it. But can you stop it safely? You will be exceeding the specs for the truck, particularly the pin weight. This will cause abnormal wear on the brakes.
  • His truck is 4x4 and probably diesel meaning he will barely have 2k payload if that. Not happening safely (within the ratings)
  • llmillerjr wrote:
    Ford's Specs show 15,300 for Fifth wheel towing...


    The problem with that- to pull 15,300 you can have a 150 pound driver and *nothing else*. But even that, for 15,300 pounds of fifth wheel- you'll typically have 20%-25% of pin weight (e.g. 3,060 pounds to 3,825 pounds). I don't know what kind of available payload that your truck has...

    When looking at towing and can my truck do it is that there is no single number that tells you if you can or can't. There are a lot of numbers that matter:
    - GVWR - gross vehicle weight rating; this is the maximum the truck is designed to carry (this includes the weight of the truck, driver, passenger(s), stuff in the bed, stuff on the truck, etc.
    - Payload - this is the difference between what the truck weighs when unhitched/ready to camp and the GVWR. This is where you run out of pounds and end up exceeding GVWR long before hitting most any other number.
    - GAWR - gross axle weight rating; there are separate ratings for the front/steer and rear/drive axles.
    - Tire load capacity - this is the amount of weight the tires are rated to carry at a certain PSI.

    Many people decide that GVWR is OK to exceed as long as they're within rear axle and tire load capacities.

    I personally feel that you should be within all of your truck's ratings.

    So now- here's how you figure out what your truck can tow.
  • Fully loaded your around 15,780# GVWR on Montana by your numbers. Pin weight around 3,200#. Don't know how your truck is spec'd but according to Ford's site you won't be able to handle the pin weight. Ford says 2,900# minus wife and kids(?), hitch, fuel etc.... (Rough math, your limited to a 2,000# pin weight or a 10,000# trailer.) If it diesel or the V-10 you can pull around 15,000# otherwise it's 10,000 # according to Ford. The Montana's pin weight will be the kicker.

    Personally to pull a trailer like that I would want a dually, but that's me.
  • I have an 09 F-250 4x2 but not a 5th wheel. Doubtful on payload IMO. Without more specific information (motor, actual payload) I cannot make a better assessment.

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