2019 F-150

[tensch]

Any issues pulling a 3000 lb 2014 Shadow Cruiser (18') TT with a new 3.3L Ford F150 Supercrew? Thanks for your thoughts.

[Fordlover]

I don't think there are many base model 3.3 F-150's that are going to have the tow package. So you will likely want to add those features, like trans cooler, hitch, wiring, brake controller, etc.

I expect the F-150 will perform well enough for you.

[JIMNLIN]

tensch wrote:
Any issues pulling a 3000 lb 2014 Shadow Cruiser (18') TT with a new 3.3L Ford F150 Supercrew? Thanks for your thoughts.

Sure not much info to make a informed recommendation.

Heres some numbers for you to chew on.
I found a 2014 Shadow Cruiser M-185 with a 3100 base weight and 2735 lb CCC = around 6k gvwr.

Looking at Fords 2019 F150 supercrew 3.3 engine shows the GVWRS range from 6100 to 6500 lbs and tiny 3350 rawr which equates for around 1100-1200 lb in the bed payload.
The 3.3 F150 has a 5000 lb tow rating with the 3.55.
and a 7400 lb tow rating with the 3.73.

Rcommendation depends on the truck and trailers numbers.

[philh]

JRscooby wrote:

A 600 lb TW needs a WDH on a half ton?

Need, maybe not... but it does make it a little better towing.

I'm a little heavier, but don't have the tow package, and for short drives won't bother with WD, but long drives, absolutely. Drives better, tows better, and is a more comfortable ride.

[carringb]

wing_zealot wrote:

Actually the first version of the Triton V10 had between 305 and 310 horsepower and 420 to 425 lb-ft of torque.

Nope. The 1st gen V10 came out in the E-series in '97 with 265 hp. The E-series got the "P.I." heads with more power in '99 when the new SuperDuty came out with the same upgrade.

[Boomerweps]

It'll be like towing, engine & transmission wise, with an Explorer. The 3.3L has similar power to the 4.0L I have in my 2008 explorer. And the F150 with the 3.3L has similar tow ratings as my Explorer. Yes, it will work. More payload capacity than that Explorer so it should tow better.
If buying new, get a stronger motor. I went with the 2019 F150 5.0L with 10 speed transmission, standard tow package. Night & day difference from my 2008 4.0L with 5 speed transmission with tow package.

[wing_zealot]

carringb wrote:
Wow. So now everybody thinks 290 horsepower can't pull 3,500 pounds????

That's more horsepower than the original Triton V10 made!

Sure, the turbo motors are far superior, but I don't think that part of the question.


OP - You'll be fine. It'll be spinning fast at times and you won't be able to tow in 6th gear, but it'll get the job done easily.

Actually the first version of the Triton V10 had between 305 and 310 horsepower and 420 to 425 lb-ft of torque. Clicky But in any event, that 3.3L isn't anything more than a grocery getter. If you want a grocery getter, it will work just dandy. If you want a tow vehicle, get a real engine, the 3.5L ecoboost (best $600 investment you can make in a truck). Just my Opinion, Yours may vary.

[theoldwizard1]

jfkmk wrote:
The 3.3 is not an ecoboost engine. A quick search shows that a properly equipped 3.3 has a max tow of 5,000#. You may want to rethink the truck or the camper.

According to the 2019 Ford F150 Towing Guide a 3.3L F150 WITH the Trailer Tow option (53A or 53B) AND a 3.73 rear axle will tow up to 12,400 lbs Gross COMBINED Weight.
If you do NOT have the Trailer Tow option or the 3.73 rear axle, you need to down size. A lot depends on how much your loaded truck weights (fuel, passengers and cargo).

[BenK]

One factor determining WD or not is the reciever rating

Many require WD at or over 500 lbs

[Terryallan]

JRscooby wrote:

Second Chance wrote:
A quick search would indicate that the 3,000 lbs. you quote is empty. GVWR for the trailer is 5,835. Use 10% of the GVWR of the trailer to estimate tongue weight and add 75 - 100 lbs. for a good WD hitch. Now... what does the payload sticker on your truck say? Remember that gas, occupants and "stuff" all count against the truck's payload. The EcoBoost is a good motor. With 1/2-ton trucks it's all about payload.

Rob

A 600 lb TW needs a WDH on a half ton?

carringb wrote:
Wow. So now everybody thinks 290 horsepower can't pull 3,500 pounds????

That's more horsepower than the original Triton V10 made!

Sure, the turbo motors are far superior, but I don't think that part of the question.


OP - You'll be fine. It'll be spinning fast at times and you won't be able to tow in 6th gear, but it'll get the job done easily.

Good thing our tax money keeps the price of gas down, some need a N14 to pull a popup

Actually. I think many so called half ton only have a 500lb weight carrying max hitch.. Meaning not WDH. So a WDH may be needed for a 600lb tongue weight. not a problem though. Plenty of payload for a WDH.

[Terryallan]

carringb wrote:
Wow. So now everybody thinks 290 horsepower can't pull 3,500 pounds????

That's more horsepower than the original Triton V10 made!

Sure, the turbo motors are far superior, but I don't think that part of the question.


OP - You'll be fine. It'll be spinning fast at times and you won't be able to tow in 6th gear, but it'll get the job done easily.

Agree. It will work. but you will know it is there. But then if truth were told. Everybody knows it when they hook up.

Only a 6 speed? Horror of horrors. Y'all would never have made it towing trailer with a 3 speed. BTW. they worked VERY well. 6 is plenty, actually more than enough. As mentioned. lock out 6th, and let it run. It will be much happier running in 5th closer to it's power band, and not lugging.

[JRscooby]

Second Chance wrote:
A quick search would indicate that the 3,000 lbs. you quote is empty. GVWR for the trailer is 5,835. Use 10% of the GVWR of the trailer to estimate tongue weight and add 75 - 100 lbs. for a good WD hitch. Now... what does the payload sticker on your truck say? Remember that gas, occupants and "stuff" all count against the truck's payload. The EcoBoost is a good motor. With 1/2-ton trucks it's all about payload.

Rob

A 600 lb TW needs a WDH on a half ton?

carringb wrote:
Wow. So now everybody thinks 290 horsepower can't pull 3,500 pounds????

That's more horsepower than the original Triton V10 made!

Sure, the turbo motors are far superior, but I don't think that part of the question.


OP - You'll be fine. It'll be spinning fast at times and you won't be able to tow in 6th gear, but it'll get the job done easily.

Good thing our tax money keeps the price of gas down, some need a N14 to pull a popup

[carringb]

Wow. So now everybody thinks 290 horsepower can't pull 3,500 pounds????

That's more horsepower than the original Triton V10 made!

Sure, the turbo motors are far superior, but I don't think that part of the question.


OP - You'll be fine. It'll be spinning fast at times and you won't be able to tow in 6th gear, but it'll get the job done easily.

[MFL]

If you already have the truck, it will likely work, depending on how heavy the truck, and trailer are loaded. If you are truck shopping, certainly one of the other engine choices would work better.

Jerry

[wing_zealot]

Do not get the 3.3L, not enough Hp and it only has the 6 sp transmission. Even the 2.7L has more Hp. Get the 3.5L Ecoboost and you'll be all set; as an extra added bonus It comes with the 10 sp transmission (you can thank me later). Get the 3.5L Ecoboost and the max tow package and you'll have room to grow in the future. Yes the 3.5L and 10 sp will cost more, but don't waste your money on the 3.3L unless it's in a Ford Focus.