5 wheel and 1500 HD

These 'fake half tons' have been there for a long time...as long as
buyers insist on only owning a half ton...even though their own
numbers indicate they should purchase the next higher class...

Dad insisted on only a half ton when the family station wagon which
served his mom'n pop grocery store was too small in volume for loads
from the slaughter house, produce mart and grocery wharehouse...so
Uncle Bill told me to order the 'fake half ton', which in 1980's era
offerings was the C15 Big Ten with a GVWR of 6,200 lbs...

That is today's 1500HDm, which now has a +8K GVWR....

Benk wrote:

The OP is talking about one of the lower class TVs and folks are trying to convince
the OP to look at the next higher class TV

Lowest to highest are

• Cars
• CUVs;;Half ton
• 3/4 ton
• 1 ton
• Commercial Class...AKA semi's
• Off Road construction 8' dia or larger tires
• Custom...one offs/etc

This goes back to something been trying to convey to folks, but marketing
trumps again...

Use their GVWR's, GAWR's and GCWR's

Just using marketing badging will have newbies looking at the +14 or so
models of half tons from Ford, GM (they don't have that many), RAM, etc


Expeditions are 'half ton' pickup truck derived. Newer has IRS, which
I'm not sold on for towing heavy...too many precision pivots that
are subject to wear and tear

Even the OP is mixed up thinking that the Suburban only has one class...it
has two classes. Lower class is in the same as his Expedition...even
the stretched version. Then the next higher class 3/4 ton. A 7K GVWR
vs 8K GVWR. A +4K RGAWR vs +6K RGAWR

Once I hear 'ride quality' and 'MPG' desired on their have to have list...give
up and leave them in the half ton class...when they need or should have
the next higher class TV

That is where the OEMs produce the 'fake half ton'...for them, but am
noticing that the OEMs no longer offer that fake half ton...models come
and go with that 8K GVWR fake half ton...