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California adds 12 cent gas tax and 20 cent diesel tax

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fj12ryder
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lanerd wrote:
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If, and that's a big if.... the increase in gas tax is used ONLY for highway infrastructure...that will be great and I'm more than willing to pay the increase.:C

Ron
Really, it doesn't matter to California whether you're more than willing or not. If you want gas/diesel you'll pay it. Like it or lump it. ๐Ÿ™‚
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down_home
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California, according to one article takes one billion off the top, of the four billion, it gets already, in fuel taxes for future appropriations, meaning general fund.
They have the money to fix the roads already. This fuel tax increase, cited as crating jobs for the poor. Won't fix the roads or provide lots, of jobs, for the poor.It is purely politics of the left.
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hard to believe that seventy dollars or so for hundred gallon diesel tank is taxes. That of course includes federal tax. You could pave the roads with gold.
Another 175.00 registration fees for "Expensive" cars I suppose includes RVs.
That could mean ten to fifteen percent of the average RV price, per year to California Taxation. I'm probably wrong on the figure.
I see a future for "residential" storage units in AZ and Nv.
The taxes involved in fueling and registration would help make a vacation property address, at a storage facility or private RV centered type home very attractive.

dave54
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The big concern is like other earmarked taxes the increase will be siphoned off to other expenses. The state legislature seems to have a pretty loose definition of 'transportation related' expenses. For example, a portion of the vehicle registration fees goes to the state TANF welfare program.

We do most of our shopping in Reno now, and always fill the tank in Nevada before returning home.
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Electric vehicle user groups have been suggesting some kind of base registration fee as well and it looks like they included that as well It will be a 100 dollar registration fee for electric vehicles from what I understand. This is a good thing and for those of us who drive electric vehicles this is something that we expected and in a way hoped for. Everybody has to contribute. Both our vehicles are electric and I would imagine our province will follow suit soon enough.
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lanerd
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Ivylog wrote:
Diesel is $2.09 in Greenville SC and the roads are pretty darn good. Glad last summer was the last time I'll have to go to California, not that I'll be missed.


I'm sorry but your statement doesn't hold water. There is a HUGE difference between the physical size and population of California compared to S. Carolina. There's no way you can compare the two.:S

And you're correct...I'm sure that California will not miss having you visit.:(

As for the tax increase.....

If, and that's a big if.... the increase in gas tax is used ONLY for highway infrastructure...that will be great and I'm more than willing to pay the increase.:C

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CA 7th highest at start of 2017-------new taxes in Nov will push it to 2nd place



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NYCgrrl
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LA Times wrote:
The plan was forcefully pushed by Gov. Jerry Brown as a necessary response to 23 years without a gas tax increase, which has resulted in a backlog of $130 billion in repair and replacement projects throughout the state.

I've no problem paying more for services rendered. Whether used for public or mass transportation it all has the desired result of making travel safer, more comfortable, and available to all.

Don't use much transport in CA currently but as a resident of another high tax area, I've no problem paying additional taxes if I can see a worth in it.

As, I recall, the current Federal administration, listed infrastructure as being a high priority but still hasn't given an inkling on how it'll be paid. As such it seems sound thinking for states to do what they can before any further disasters.

If, we as individual owners, did little to no maintenance on say our home roofs for 23 years, prolly wouldn't have a roof to worry about.

bob213
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Unfortunately California already has one of the highest fuel tax in the nation. It seems that the fund has been diverted to the High Speed Rail that is so far over budget I can't find an accurate number. I have never seen our roads in the disrepair that they are in now, but everywhere you look the state is re-aligning the hiway to make room for the Bullet Train. From what we read in our newspapers the gov. has depleted every fund they can to get additional funding for the train. I'm sure they will siphon off this new tax as well.
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fj12ryder
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JIMNLIN wrote:
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IF my state will improve roads and bridges within the state with a fuel tax increase I'm all for it.
Ah, but there's the big "IF". "IF" it were a perfect world that would happen, or "IF" the people in charge were any good at operating within a budget. But neither of those are true so the taxes go up and the roads and bridges improve very little, if at all.
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Ivylog
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Diesel is $2.09 in Greenville SC and the roads are pretty darn good. Glad last summer was the last time I'll have to go to California, not that I'll be missed.
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JIMNLIN
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-senate-on-gas-1491508...
Here's a different take other than the political bilge in the OP web clicky on the same subject.
Roads/bridges/etc all across the country are in bad need of repairing.

I see on a couple of trucking news websites I frequent CA highways and bridges have been a big source of complaints from CA based private truck owners/operators and CA trucking companies and their drivers.

IF my state will improve roads and bridges within the state with a fuel tax increase I'm all for it.
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timandpeggy
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darsben1 wrote:
FAKE NEWS


Sadly, it isn't fake. We're in Ca right now, and they did just pass this added tax. The gas and diesel take effect 1 Nov, the additional vehicle registration (from $25 to $125) take effect 1 Jan.

To give you an I'dea of what prices are, we're in Pleasanton (east San Francisco Bay Area) and diesel is $2.97 to $3.09.

The roads here are the worst I've seen in quite some time. We came out of Las Vegas on I-15, to Ca 58, to I-5, and there were very few spots where I wasn't playing "chase the potholes".

They have the money, but since the answer is political, I won't say what the folks in Sacramento have to say. If we didn't have to be here to take care of some business, we wouldn't be here. Oh, and before any California residents say anything, both my wife and I are native, smart Califirnian's. We left!

darsben1
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FAKE NEWS
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Chris_Bryant
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Good for them. That's why their economy is among the strongest of states.
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