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Cost to Outfit for Dinghy Towing

rvindave
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I'm looking into outfitting my Class B+ Phoenix Cruiser and 2010 Chevy Malibu for 4 wheels down towing. For the tow assembly, modifications to Malibu, and a braking system I was quoted $6,000. Quote was from a local RV retailer with a service department. That seemed quite a bit more than the sum of the parts.

Curious what people have paid to outfit their rigs in a similar fashion?
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dalerussel
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I posted this answer elsewhere on another topic. We just set up our tow system for a CRV at a Blue Ox recommended dealer in Arizona. It cost us about $3800 for the system including parts, labor and taxes. This included the following costs:
1. Blue Ox base plate ($420)
2. Wire harness and cords ($160)
3. SMI Stay and Play Duo braking system ($1090). We had the installer mount the brake light inside of the coach.
4. Fuse Master fuse disconnect to disable the recommended CRV fuse while towing ($75)
5. Blue Ox Avail tow bar ($900)
6. Drop hitch ($64)
7. Labor ($880) and Tax ($230)
$6000 seems really high.

dubdub07
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Big Katuna wrote:
The Texan wrote:
RJsfishin wrote:


The biggest ripoff, is the price of base plates,....$3-500
A lousy $139 for a frame mounted trailer hitch, requiring lots a steel, and very difficult to build.
And $3-500 for base plates requiring 1/2 as much steel, and not hard to build.
I don't know why.
Insurance, insurance, insurance ..... In today's litigious society, the manufacturer needs to carry 100's of millions of $$$$ in liability insurance to cover the one or two weld failures, or vehicle separations that may occur on any one type of base plate. Blame the RVers for the high price, no one else.


I would add it isn't just insurance. As a business guy; it's overhead. Demco, Blue Ox, etc. have Engineers, fabricators, machinists, accountants, advertising and yes, liability for the products they sell.


My family is from Pender originally so I know the Blue Ox people. They have just a few engineers and two fabricators. They have a total of 115 employees and 88 are in Pender and most things are automated. They probably only pay one accountant on the premises and he/she would act as the CPA and maybe an auditor as they are a private company. Insurance has to be the same for any liability type company. These are not uncommon costs to run a business.

Blue Ox is a true example of a small family owned company that is doing things right.

WW
2013 Fleetwood Discovery 40G
TOADS: 12 Jeep JKUR Wrangler, 16 Cherokee Trailhawk, 15 Grand Cherokee, 13 RAM 1500 Longhorn (not a toad) American STEEL = American profits
RET USAF MSGT (26yrs) and still DoD ATC.
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Big_Katuna
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The Texan wrote:
RJsfishin wrote:


The biggest ripoff, is the price of base plates,....$3-500
A lousy $139 for a frame mounted trailer hitch, requiring lots a steel, and very difficult to build.
And $3-500 for base plates requiring 1/2 as much steel, and not hard to build.
I don't know why.
Insurance, insurance, insurance ..... In today's litigious society, the manufacturer needs to carry 100's of millions of $$$$ in liability insurance to cover the one or two weld failures, or vehicle separations that may occur on any one type of base plate. Blame the RVers for the high price, no one else.


I would add it isn't just insurance. As a business guy; it's overhead. Demco, Blue Ox, etc. have Engineers, fabricators, machinists, accountants, advertising and yes, liability for the products they sell.
My Kharma ran over my Dogma.

jwmII
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Six thousand is outrageous. 2 thou would be high but is probably as good as you'll find. That's parts and labor.
jwmII

The_Texan
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RJsfishin wrote:


The biggest ripoff, is the price of base plates,....$3-500
A lousy $139 for a frame mounted trailer hitch, requiring lots a steel, and very difficult to build.
And $3-500 for base plates requiring 1/2 as much steel, and not hard to build.
I don't know why.
Insurance, insurance, insurance ..... In today's litigious society, the manufacturer needs to carry 100's of millions of $$$$ in liability insurance to cover the one or two weld failures, or vehicle separations that may occur on any one type of base plate. Blame the RVers for the high price, no one else.

Bob & Betsy - USN Aviation Ret'd '78 & LEO Ret'd '03 & "Oath Keeper Forever"


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Where the wheels are stopped today

RJsfishin
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I spent about 33 bucks.
$8 for the steel to build the base plates.
$25 tail lite sockets, bulbs, wire and plug
Already had the RM towbar.
But I don't have brakes yet, and probably won't have.

I know, this dint help you one bit,....sorry

The biggest ripoff, is the price of base plates,....$3-500
A lousy $139 for a frame mounted trailer hitch, requiring lots a steel, and very difficult to build.
And $3-500 for base plates requiring 1/2 as much steel, and not hard to build.
I don't know why.
Rich

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kjburns
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rvindave wrote:
Thanks everyone for the detailed input...I'm going to shop around more, and will report back what I end up spending. $6k just seemed way too high.


It is way too high. The most I've spent on setup was maybe $3500 for setting up the motorhome and toad from scratch. The $6,000 price must include their kid's college education fund ๐Ÿ™‚
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dubdub07
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I did it all myself-

Blue Ox base plate - Wrangler = $362
Blue Ox base plate - Grand Cherokee = $316
Wiring for both = $120
Blue Ox Alpha Tow Bar = $500
Road Master EvenBrake = $790

Total = $2088

Edit**

I forgot to say that I bought these items on Ebay and Amazon and took a couple of months searching for the best deals. With Amazon Prime there is no shipping or tax.
2013 Fleetwood Discovery 40G
TOADS: 12 Jeep JKUR Wrangler, 16 Cherokee Trailhawk, 15 Grand Cherokee, 13 RAM 1500 Longhorn (not a toad) American STEEL = American profits
RET USAF MSGT (26yrs) and still DoD ATC.
DW,DS,DD in the MH w/Westley the killer PUG!

tatest
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Buying a used Aladdin tow bar, buying the Blue Ox baseplate through a local dealer and installing it myself, and using magnetic mount lights, about $800 total, plus about 10-12 hours of my own labor installing the base plate.

But I do not yet have a braking solution, a Brake Buddy will at least double that cost. So about $1500-1700 before labor, for a "modern" solution, using used parts where available. Maybe $2500 buying everything new, for the parts.

If you had a Jeep with a winch bumper, you could maybe get by with a $200 A-Frame car-mounted tow bar, but even those get pricier when you work towards more convenience, e.g. Roadmaster's Stowmaster is about $500 vs $250 for the A-Frame tracker (vs $600 to $1000 for motorhome-mounted Falcon, Sterling or Blackhawk).

Braking systems can range from about $450 for a ReadyBrake (or other cable-pull surge brake) through $800 - $1200 for a braking box, to more than $2000 for a braking system that integrates with a motorhome's air brakes. If you want surge brakes, the ReadyBrute integrates those into a heavy duty tow bar for not much more than the price of a tow bar.

Then your deal also includes lighting, most likely, which can range from as little as $25 for a pair of magnetic lights through installation of auxiliary lights in existing housings ($60 plus installation) to electrical integration of the two lighting systems using diodes ($35 parts and lots of labor).

Installation labor, both ends, can range from 2-3 hours to 10-12 hours, depending on the complexity of the problem, so considering buying the "best" of everything, and paying someone else to do all the work at a $100-$120 shop rate, $5000-6000 is not out of line. But that might be four to eight times the cost of the cheapest way for a Malibu, buying the parts for the least expensive solutions and doing all the work yourself.
Tom Test
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prstlk
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Craigslist for the bar. Hitch trader.com for base plates, magnetic lights from harbor freight. You can download great instructions from roadmaster for installation of their products. . I just bought a new to me ford ranger using the above, did the whole thing for $450.00 for bar and plates, $30. for bolts and nuts, $20. For light kit.
Plan on using several 1/2 inch drill bits for the frame work. We used wd 40 ahead of time on bumper and frame bolts

Takes about 2/3 hours and 12/24 beers
turned out great
jw
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tropical36
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rvindave wrote:
I'm looking into outfitting my Class B+ Phoenix Cruiser and 2010 Chevy Malibu for 4 wheels down towing. For the tow assembly, modifications to Malibu, and a braking system I was quoted $6,000. Quote was from a local RV retailer with a service department. That seemed quite a bit more than the sum of the parts.

Curious what people have paid to outfit their rigs in a similar fashion?

Don't walk, run and run like he*l.
I installed the READYBRUTE/ELITE, optional breakaway, COOLTECH wiring harness, DEMCO base plate and some other extras for less than $1500.
Did everything myself for the savings and for insuring it would be done right. First one I ever did and most likely the last one, except for helping some others with theirs.
We've been all over the country, since installing and without issue.
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Sooboy
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I was just quoted just shy of $2400 CDN to install base plates on my new 2014 F-150 and wire in the tail lights. That excludes the tow bar (which I already own) and brakes (which are next on the list). I'm fed up. Last week I ordered the parts (totalling $460) from etrailer.com. I intend to do it myself. Even if it takes me 5 hours instead of 3 - completely worth the savings! So tired of being robbed!
2012 Jayco Embark TB390
Blue Ox Aventa LX Tow Bar
2009 Honda CRV (mini toad)
2014 Ford F-150 4x4 (monster toad)
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jsmart
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Spent about $1800.00 to get our Ford C-Max towable. Bought the tow bar and base plate through amazon (both blue ox) bought the wiring harness for the lights on the toad from a local auto parts shop. Had a local shop do the base plate and wiring install for $117.00/hr at 4 hrs. labor. hooked up a used ready brake that I bought on cl.
2002 Itasca Sunrise 32V

wbwood
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We were quoted in the ballpark of $2500+ . We went the tow dolly route that has surge brakes on it. $1300. For us part timers, it's good. If you full time and move around a lot, then it may make sense to pay double the amount of a dolly.
Brian
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