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Dealer gave me wrong equal-I-zer size?

shades9323
Explorer
Explorer
So I picked up a 2015 Jayco X23b hybrid today and the dealer installed the equalizer with the 600/6000 head/bars. Loaded trailer weight is 5000 max. I’ve read online people exceeding 600lbs on the tongue. 600lbs is 12%. Am I safe with the 600/6000 or should I go back and ask for the 1000/10000 set up?
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shades9323
Explorer
Explorer
I talked to the dealer this morning. I am taking the trailer to them Saturday and they are going to move the safety chains to a different location and eliminate the ring in that location. Then they will re-adjust with a longer drop shank.

dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
mkirsch wrote:
You're having way too many issues and this is becoming way too complicated.

Get a different hitch and be done with it.


Seeing the issue now, it’s not the hitch, it’s the trailer!
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mkirsch
Nomad II
Nomad II
You're having way too many issues and this is becoming way too complicated.

Get a different hitch and be done with it.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
Looks like you need a 1" to 1 1/2" rise ball. that should clear the chain attachment point.
Wife Kim
Son Brandon 17yrs
Daughter Marissa 16yrs
Dog Bailey

12 Forest River Georgetown 350TS Hellwig sway bars, BlueOx TrueCenter stabilizer

13 Ford Explorer Roadmaster Stowmaster 5000, VIP Tow>
A bad day camping is
better than a good day at work!

Ralph_Cramden
Explorer II
Explorer II


It looks like relocation the attachment of the chains solves the issue but if not have someone with a plasma cutter blow a notch through all the way across as in the picture above and then weld in an short piece of 1-1/2" angle to close the ends. 15 minutes for someone with the tools.

I'd melt it off for you, but I am not driving to Lansing unless you're giving me tickets to MIS, paying for my fuel, and letting me set up my rig in your front yard hooked to your utilities for a long weekend........You can get it done a lot cheaper than that LOL.

They have the coupler mounted too far to the rear, it should of been welded on so the ends of the tube are where the arrow and red line are, where the coupler stamping breaks that angle. They had the A frame slightly off so they jammed it on there and where it fit....it fit. They did not want to spend the time to pop a couple shims in. Probably only an issue with Equalizer.
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shades9323
Explorer
Explorer
TurnThePage wrote:
Yes I saw that pic but wasn't able to deduce what you are now telling me. Maybe you do have an issue. A slightly taller ball would solve it, but I don't know if such an animal exists. I think you might want to contact the hitch manufacturer and perhaps a local trailer service center.


They do exist! I have an email into the mfg to see which one might be approved. Although that would require much readjustment and the addition of a shank with more drop.

TurnThePage
Explorer
Explorer
BarneyS wrote:
drsteve wrote:
BarneyS wrote:
TurnThePage wrote:
If you took ALL those pictures with the hitch on actually connected to the tow vehicle, they don't tell the real story. The hitch head is angled upwards toward the trailer there, but when hitched to tow, it will angled down which should allow room.

The WD bars are on the L brackets which should position the hitch head very close to what it would be when towing. The pictures should show it just about what it will be like when hooked up to the trailer and tow vehicle.
Barney


Bars are on the brackets, but they are not under tension. TurnThePage is right, IMHO.
Equal-i-zer bars are very stiff and do not bend much if at all when under tension. If they are on th "L" brackets as shown in the pictures they should hold the hitch head in just about the same position as when inserted into the receiver.
Barney
I must respectfully disagree. In fact, if you look at it, the hitch head is pointing in a fashion that couldn't happen if it was connected to the tow vehicle. Look at the stinger.
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TurnThePage
Explorer
Explorer
Yes I saw that pic but wasn't able to deduce what you are now telling me. Maybe you do have an issue. A slightly taller ball would solve it, but I don't know if such an animal exists. I think you might want to contact the hitch manufacturer and perhaps a local trailer service center.
2015 Ram 1500
2022 Grand Design Imagine XLS 22RBE

BarneyS
Explorer III
Explorer III
drsteve wrote:
BarneyS wrote:
TurnThePage wrote:
If you took ALL those pictures with the hitch on actually connected to the tow vehicle, they don't tell the real story. The hitch head is angled upwards toward the trailer there, but when hitched to tow, it will angled down which should allow room.

The WD bars are on the L brackets which should position the hitch head very close to what it would be when towing. The pictures should show it just about what it will be like when hooked up to the trailer and tow vehicle.
Barney


Bars are on the brackets, but they are not under tension. TurnThePage is right, IMHO.
Equal-i-zer bars are very stiff and do not bend much if at all when under tension. If they are on th "L" brackets as shown in the pictures they should hold the hitch head in just about the same position as when inserted into the receiver.
Barney
2004 Sunnybrook Titan 30FKS TT
Hensley "Arrow" 1400# hitch (Sold)
Not towing now.
Former tow vehicles were 2016 Ram 2500 CTD, 2002 Ford F250, 7.3 PSD, 1997 Ram 2500 5.9 gas engine

dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
Regardless of what Equalizer says, you don’t count vehicle weight as tongue weight! That’s what the truck springs are for. If it’s sagging before the trailer is connected you have bigger issues.
Wife Kim
Son Brandon 17yrs
Daughter Marissa 16yrs
Dog Bailey

12 Forest River Georgetown 350TS Hellwig sway bars, BlueOx TrueCenter stabilizer

13 Ford Explorer Roadmaster Stowmaster 5000, VIP Tow>
A bad day camping is
better than a good day at work!

shades9323
Explorer
Explorer
TurnThePage wrote:
If you took ALL those pictures with the hitch on actually connected to the tow vehicle, they don't tell the real story. The hitch head is angled upwards toward the trailer there, but when hitched to tow, it will angled down which should allow room.


Did you see the below pic from a previous page? It show where it hit during my one tow that included a few left turns. The ring is also worn from hitting the hitch.

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZrrTO4K

drsteve
Explorer
Explorer
BarneyS wrote:
TurnThePage wrote:
If you took ALL those pictures with the hitch on actually connected to the tow vehicle, they don't tell the real story. The hitch head is angled upwards toward the trailer there, but when hitched to tow, it will angled down which should allow room.

The WD bars are on the L brackets which should position the hitch head very close to what it would be when towing. The pictures should show it just about what it will be like when hooked up to the trailer and tow vehicle.
Barney


Bars are on the brackets, but they are not under tension. TurnThePage is right, IMHO.
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BarneyS
Explorer III
Explorer III
TurnThePage wrote:
If you took ALL those pictures with the hitch on actually connected to the tow vehicle, they don't tell the real story. The hitch head is angled upwards toward the trailer there, but when hitched to tow, it will angled down which should allow room.

The WD bars are on the L brackets which should position the hitch head very close to what it would be when towing. The pictures should show it just about what it will be like when hooked up to the trailer and tow vehicle.
Barney
2004 Sunnybrook Titan 30FKS TT
Hensley "Arrow" 1400# hitch (Sold)
Not towing now.
Former tow vehicles were 2016 Ram 2500 CTD, 2002 Ford F250, 7.3 PSD, 1997 Ram 2500 5.9 gas engine

TurnThePage
Explorer
Explorer
If you took ALL those pictures with the hitch on actually connected to the tow vehicle, they don't tell the real story. The hitch head is angled upwards toward the trailer there, but when hitched to tow, it will angled down which should allow room.
2015 Ram 1500
2022 Grand Design Imagine XLS 22RBE

Ralph_Cramden
Explorer II
Explorer II
Its hard to tell from your pictures on this phone. Maybe move the safety chain attachment and/or have someone take a little off the ends of the A frame tubes. Ill look at them better on the puter when I have the chance. It looks like its only a little bit of one or the other thats binding.

Or maybe use the RV net solution. Just run out and buy a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck then lose the WD altogether lol. Drop it o. The ball and haul ass.
Too many geezers, self appointed moderators, experts, and disappearing posts for me. Enjoy. How many times can the same thing be rehashed over and over?