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Do passengers\ gear in the cab add equal weight to axles?

DinTulsa
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Has anyone weighed their truck without passengers then again with passengers? Does more weight go on the front or rear axle when the cab is loaded?
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DinTulsa
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Thank you, I'll pull a link and see how it drives, if I don't like it I will add a link when I stop for fuel. I looked and the Front Axle is rated for 5600lbs, so I have a lot of room to spare on the front axle.

Thanks

IDoMyOwnStunts
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It really sounds like you do have it set up correctly with the weight properly restored to the front axle. I wouldn't worry about it unless you do get close to the 5100 rating, which I doubt you will. If you feel more comfortable, go ahead and take a link off and see how it drives. When I weighed mine, I noticed when I took a link off it only changed the front axle weight by 100 lbs. I also did mine with nobody in the truck but loaded for camping.
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DinTulsa
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I weighed with the truck ready to camp minus people, then weighed with the trailer hooked up ready to camp minus people. I've never read where the front should be heavier when a trailer is hooked up.

llr
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you shouldn't be taking weight off the front end, you should add some. it sounds like you weighed empty with trailer and loaded without so you don't really have anything to compare.
loaded the same, hooked up should be a little heavier in the front

DinTulsa
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My unloaded front axle weight is 4780(truck loaded ready to camp not trailer hooked up). With the TT hooked up and wd engaged I'm at 4700. That does not include people or accessories in the cab. I'm thinking I will be over the 4780 number when the family is loaded and traveling. The front axle is rated at 5100 so I'm well under the FAWR though. Should I worry about he front axle weight until I approach the 5100 mark?

IDoMyOwnStunts
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DinTulsa wrote:
I have a crew cab short bed. The reason I ask is because I weighed my truck and trailer awhile back. I was within 80lbs of my unloaded front axle weight, but that didn't include my wife, son and me along with a few other items we put in the cab, probably 400 lbs in all. So I'm sure I've been over my unloaded front axle weight when traveling, I'm going to have to drop one notch on my WD hitch to lessen the weight transfer.


I'm a little confused here. You are saying you're within 80 lbs over your unloaded front axle weight, but are you actually that close to your front axle ratings that the weight of the driver and passenger would put you over? If you aren't going to be over the ratings, why would you need to reduce the weight transfer? It sounds like you are set up properly.
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ACZL
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Nice analogy BenK.
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BenK
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Here are some side view pictures and note where the drivers door rear edge is in
reference to the wheel base...it is normally centered and that most of the stuff
loaded in/on is behind the wheel base center point...except for the driver/passenger

Am sure there are exceptions, but this is the most common from my own
empirical data. Most of the exceptions are for cars and CUV (crossover
utility vehicle...derived from cars)





































Ford 2017



-Ben Picture of my rig
1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...

BenK
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Here is a picture of my Suburban drivers door label listing the GVWR and f/r GAWR

Note that the front is 4,250 lbs and the rear is 6,000 lbs...so guess where the
majority of the weight is on...

Also, take a side view look of any TV and note where the end of the drivers rear
edge is? Most are in the middle or slightly forward of dead center between the
wheel/tire center...and where most of the stuff is loaded...people/pets/luggage/etc

Most of their weight will be towards the rear axle side of dead center


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This is the main difference between the lowest class TV to the higher
class TVs...the RGAWR...and where most get into ratings issues
-Ben Picture of my rig
1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...

DinTulsa
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I have a crew cab short bed. The reason I ask is because I weighed my truck and trailer awhile back. I was within 80lbs of my unloaded front axle weight, but that didn't include my wife, son and me along with a few other items we put in the cab, probably 400 lbs in all. So I'm sure I've been over my unloaded front axle weight when traveling, I'm going to have to drop one notch on my WD hitch to lessen the weight transfer.

Bedlam
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It depends on your cab and bed length. A standard cab with a long bed will put most of the driver/passenger weight on the front axle. A crew cab with short bed will more likely split the weight between the two axles.

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DinTulsa
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Thank you...

tonymull
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you can just assume it's half and half, won't be enough off from that to make any difference.