Gasoline/Diesel Shortages

I'm sticking a fork in this thread and calling it done. The crisis seems to have passed.

Closed.

wapiticountry wrote:

JRscooby wrote:


When I was in school I was taught if everybody works together everybody does better.
I would hate to think that I filled my tank to "keep my options open" caused say a ambulance not to have options.

How very true. However they apparently left out the fact that at the last time that happened was never. I take care of myself and pass on babysitting the rest of the world

Grit dog wrote:

wapiticountry wrote:
However they apparently left out the fact that at the last time that happened was never. I take care of myself and pass on babysitting the rest of the world

Bingo. "This" particular issue is, or more accurately, was, a short lived problem. And I'm a very nice helpful person generally, but make no mistake, anyone whom puts others over themselves, in general, is a fool, or a fraud with only the appearance of caring.
I'm also not going to waste time on the differentiation of either.

Well, IMHO, knowing something will be in short supply for a limited time, then running out to buy all I can, instead of what I need is not babysitting the world, but it is not kicking others in the face either. Fact is, because many people are so much Me Me Me stations in states not served by the pipeline are running out of gas. But Darwin's laws might reduce that problem somewhat.

wapiticountry wrote:
However they apparently left out the fact that at the last time that happened was never. I take care of myself and pass on babysitting the rest of the world

Bingo. "This" particular issue is, or more accurately, was, a short lived problem. And I'm a very nice helpful person generally, but make no mistake, anyone whom puts others over themselves, in general, is a fool, or a fraud with only the appearance of caring.
I'm also not going to waste time on the differentiation of either.

JRscooby wrote:


When I was in school I was taught if everybody works together everybody does better.
I would hate to think that I filled my tank to "keep my options open" caused say a ambulance not to have options.

How very true. However they apparently left out the fact that at the last time that happened was never. I take care of myself and pass on babysitting the rest of the world

mr_andyj wrote:
County ambulances likely get fueled from county owned pumps that supply only to county vehicles (police, ambulance, fire, bus and other), so probably no issues.
So, prices went up a little, we will see if they come back down to last weeks prices or if they stay the same. Ga prices were frozen by the governor, yet they still went up from $0 to 30 cents higher overnight.
Most stations are out of 87 octane so everyone is having to buy the higher priced fuels. If I owned a station I would only order in 93 octane, but surely nobody is doing this...

While this is likely true, fuel to go in the county storage tanks comes thru the same pipeline as what goes to gas station.

BrentB wrote:

JRscooby wrote:

BrentB wrote:
% of all stations out of gas:
AL 9%
DC 35%
DE 4%
FL 25%
GA 49%
KY 3%
LA 0%
MD 22%
MS 6%
NC 71%
NJ 1%
SC 51%
TN 24%
TX 0%
VA 52%
WV 6%

But at least one state on you map gets no fuel from the pipeline that has issues

This list was created by Gas Buddy. It includes most, but not all of the states included in the Regional Emergency Declaration.

I can understand that. But if a station in a state not supplied by the pipeline does not have gas it is 100% caused by people hording/buying what they might need, not what they need.

This is probably a good time for a reminder that the time to stock up to keep your future options open is when there isn't a crisis.

I live in earthquake & brush fire country and I keep both fuel tanks in my toy hauler full (gen + fuel station), as well as water and emergency food (and liquor).

I don't wait for things to go off the rails to prepare.

BrentB wrote:
% of all stations out of gas:
AL 9%
DC 35%
DE 4%
FL 25%
GA 49%
KY 3%
LA 0%
MD 22%
MS 6%
NC 71%
NJ 1%
SC 51%
TN 24%
TX 0%
VA 52%
WV 6%

could have been lower if people could have conserved 20% instead of the actual 40% increase in demand.

County ambulances likely get fueled from county owned pumps that supply only to county vehicles (police, ambulance, fire, bus and other), so probably no issues.
So, prices went up a little, we will see if they come back down to last weeks prices or if they stay the same. Ga prices were frozen by the governor, yet they still went up from $0 to 30 cents higher overnight.
Most stations are out of 87 octane so everyone is having to buy the higher priced fuels. If I owned a station I would only order in 93 octane, but surely nobody is doing this...

JRscooby wrote:

BrentB wrote:
% of all stations out of gas:
AL 9%
DC 35%
DE 4%
FL 25%
GA 49%
KY 3%
LA 0%
MD 22%
MS 6%
NC 71%
NJ 1%
SC 51%
TN 24%
TX 0%
VA 52%
WV 6%

But at least one state on you map gets no fuel from the pipeline that has issues

This list was created by Gas Buddy. It includes most, but not all of the states included in the Regional Emergency Declaration.