Generators stolen --- UPDATE pg 4
Well, it finally happened. We're in Quartzsite, boondocking on BLM land and our two Honda generators were taken between 10 pm and 8 00am this morning. We had heavy duty vinyl covered cables, but that ...
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When wanting a cable or chain to secure something, people are going to buy cheap without researching. Looking at Walmart, Amazon, and the local Harley stores, I found just that - cheap. I've cut a similar "Motor Cycle cables" with bolt cutters - bought specifically to secure a motorcycle over the winter. And Harley Davidson is just like the rest of them - stocking cheap accessories made in China.
When talking chain, most store bought chain is only case hardened which will not stand up to bolt cutters. Hard on the outside, and soft on the inside. Cable bought at Home Depot is also a low tensile strength which is why I didn't buy cable from them - I don't want to fail inspection and my cable has a Fl. hurricane code and has a 7000 lb tensile strength - but again, eaisly cut by bolt cutters. Why? I quote from my link below - "Because no matter what anyone tells you, no matter what size cable it is, if it is flexible then it is soft". But the cable I bought could easily hang one or two Harley's from the ceiling. But people don't pull on a cable to break it - do they?
I was reminded of some previous research and looked up my notes to share with the OP.
Go to lockitt.com/chaininfo.htmfor some good reading on chain locking systems, and what can and cannot be cut with standard bolt cutters. It also has great info on how chains are hardened and what to look for.
Here is a link from this site forArmored Cable Locks which is what the mod refers to above.
So if I find myself in need of securing a generator, I'd look into a 16 mm - 19 mm Noose Chain as linked in this site.
16 mm Noose Chain
19 mm Noose chain
Read the information under the heading "Can it be cut with a bolt-cutter / cropper"?
Be prepared for a little sticker shock though.
So you can secure your valuable equipment while camping with a sense of security given your using a system not easily defeated by the types out to steal from you. These measures are obviously needed more or less depending on the location your camping in.
I'm sorry that the OP was nailed to the wall by some for sharing a bad experience on this forum. Its a shame these types of comments are allowed to remain, but that's the price you pay on here for having the access to the majority of high caliber posters.
When talking chain, most store bought chain is only case hardened which will not stand up to bolt cutters. Hard on the outside, and soft on the inside. Cable bought at Home Depot is also a low tensile strength which is why I didn't buy cable from them - I don't want to fail inspection and my cable has a Fl. hurricane code and has a 7000 lb tensile strength - but again, eaisly cut by bolt cutters. Why? I quote from my link below - "Because no matter what anyone tells you, no matter what size cable it is, if it is flexible then it is soft". But the cable I bought could easily hang one or two Harley's from the ceiling. But people don't pull on a cable to break it - do they?
I was reminded of some previous research and looked up my notes to share with the OP.
Go to lockitt.com/chaininfo.htmfor some good reading on chain locking systems, and what can and cannot be cut with standard bolt cutters. It also has great info on how chains are hardened and what to look for.
Here is a link from this site forArmored Cable Locks which is what the mod refers to above.
So if I find myself in need of securing a generator, I'd look into a 16 mm - 19 mm Noose Chain as linked in this site.
16 mm Noose Chain
19 mm Noose chain
Read the information under the heading "Can it be cut with a bolt-cutter / cropper"?
Be prepared for a little sticker shock though.
So you can secure your valuable equipment while camping with a sense of security given your using a system not easily defeated by the types out to steal from you. These measures are obviously needed more or less depending on the location your camping in.
I'm sorry that the OP was nailed to the wall by some for sharing a bad experience on this forum. Its a shame these types of comments are allowed to remain, but that's the price you pay on here for having the access to the majority of high caliber posters.
