thanks for the ideas! I don't know why some of them had not come to mind before. As a Kid we loved camping in the tent rather than the pop up. The way of hauling people was also great, I just get my mind going on direction and you have done a good job of refocusing things. Thank you I have always said campers are the greatest people. I will throw out one clarification and that is that my mother is confined to a memory care unit so she will not be going with us, just making so dad can still enjoy his retirement.
