High Pressure salesmen!

[Blanco1]

My God about a week ago I called Banning discount RV off the 10 Fwy in Southern California & the guy was so desperately trying anything he could to rope me in.
I finally had to hang up.

But today I happen to be driving by on my way from Tucson Az.
I figured why not drop in & see what they have?
Hopefully I wont meet that guy from the phone?

1st off they DO NOT actually hear what your telling them & are trying to figure out how to sell you on something they are showing you!

& then if the 1st guy don't lock you in they send in another guy to see if he has better luck!
But of course he don't listen much to the words coming out of your mouth either!
& they push to make sure they get your name & phone number & e-mail & keep pushing!

Much too aggressive!

Does this actually work on some people?

This is probably the 5th or 6th Dealer I've gone to & the only once that chased me away!

I finally explained that I've been driving all day & need to go pick up my dog from the Boarders & then still had an additional an hour & 45 minutes from there to get home.

So I politely asked for the 2nd salesman's Business card & he said sure let me go get it, I'll be right back.
We went to the car & took off!

I will never deal this place EVER & if anyone ever ask me I will tell them to stay away!

They don't listen & don't take no for an answer!

Does this actually work for them selling RV's?
Ill go back to people that actually listen & don't push!

[ol_Bombero-JC]

Looked at all the replies to "Blanco1".

What they (you) are not taking into consideration is where "Blanco1" is located....Los Angeles = So. California.

"Camping" season is year round!

This is the land of "Gotta Have it *NOW* !!
It's been in the mid 70s to 80+ degrees this week (in mid Dec.), and in spite of the fires you see on CNN - there's still plenty of places to go!

High pressure, low pressure - or NO pressure, somebody will walk on that dealer's lot in So. CA - and MUST have....that one!
Oh, and by the way.....did I say....NOW ??
(Yesterday would be even better)

Dealerships in So. CA are where you LOOK at the RVs, then shop out-of state.....and ORDER exactly what you want - and of course, you KNOW
the prices of EXACTLY what you want.

Then *IF* some local dealer wants to meet the price you found - or is willing to come close enough to get your business - you can decide: Buy it there -or- elsewhere (as in travel for the best price).

*IF* you are considering purchasing something "in stock" (on the dealer's lot) you are now a "negotiator" in competition with other gotta-have-it-now folks that will walk in tomorrow or the next day.

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BTW - Purchasing cars and trucks is night and day compared to RVs!

Unless you are looking for something exotic, or must have the "blue one" on the dealer's, lot, you should be able to purchase (order) a car or truck at Dealer *Invoice*, which has nothing to do with MSRP (sticker price) - and is still above the actual Dealer *Cost*.
(The dealer NEVER loses $$ on a sale)

Dealer *Invoice* does not include any factory rebates offered to you.
If a rebate only includes units "in stock" - it's just another come-on, "playing" with discounted MSRP!

Actual Dealer *Cost* includes Dealer Holdback, and any factory rebates or incentives to/for the Dealer (not you).
Like RVs - you will never know the actual Dealer *Cost*..

Anyway - Good & happy hunting "Blanco1" !!

:W

[1968mooney]

Reason if I can't find it on Amazon or Walmart I do without.

[Jayco-noslide]

I don't think it's so much that "high pressure" works but the good salesmen know what arguments may appeal to an individual. Many of the typical ones don't work on me but having a good knowledge of the vehicle and pointing out the performance strong points might. When I sold to a dealer, his strong argument was "but I can write you a check right now". The biggest "trick" that not even many smart people get is that they will offer you an inflated amount for your trade-in but subtract it from the total asking price for what you are buying not from the actual price you could get with no trade-in.

[ol__yeller]

K_and_I wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:
With the way everyone apparently feels about vehicle salespeople, why would anyone ever consider it as a career? You would be though of as a sleazeball thief, even if you were not. My experience has thankfully been different.

I know what you mean...98% of the salespeople give the rest of us a bad name.:)

Now I don't care who you are, That's funny right thar!

[K_and_I]

westernrvparkowner wrote:
With the way everyone apparently feels about vehicle salespeople, why would anyone ever consider it as a career? You would be though of as a sleazeball thief, even if you were not. My experience has thankfully been different.

I know what you mean...98% of the salespeople give the rest of us a bad name.:)

[tnscoutr]

edatlanta wrote:
I was shopping for a new car a few year back and the dealer asked for the keys to my trade so they could evaluate it (Now I refuse and tell them they can evaluate it right in front where I parked it). After this guy just wouldn't listen or answer any of my questions I old him I wanted my keys back. He ignored that request one time then I interrupted him and told him to get me my keys immediately before he said another word or he would be answering to the police. I stood up and motioned for him to get busy and go get my keys. He did and the sales manager tried to stop me on my way out the door. I just walked around him never to return.

Assisted my daughter in looking at cars about a year ago. She was confused when I grabbed her spare key. She gave the salesman her key for an estimate, and when the negotiations didn't pan out and they couldn't find her key, I pulled the spare out of my pocket and told them no problem, they could send someone to our house with it when they found it. It was magically located before we got out the door.

[FunnyCamper]

westernrvparkowner wrote:
With the way everyone apparently feels about vehicle salespeople, why would anyone ever consider it as a career? You would be though of as a sleazeball thief, even if you were not. My experience has thankfully been different.

Had the sleazeball thief salesperson in all aspects of life when buying any big ticket item in my life (from cars, boats, rvs, new heating/ac system to contractors on barns I wanted to build on our land to....) and I have had the best darn people that one could ever work with in my life 🙂 Thankfully the good have outweighed the bad in most of our dealings 🙂 🙂 🙂 The great people are out there for sure and thank heavens for them!

[valhalla360]

Blanco1 wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
Bottom line: YES it works.

For every customer who walks away, they sell more and at higher prices.

If you go in with the understanding that it's OK to walk away, you hold the power.
If you go in and get intimidated, they hold the power.

Frustrating when you are just looking and trying to decide what you like but when it comes time to buy, you just have to hold firm and be prepared to walk away. Amazing how many times they will chase you out the door with a lower price.

My suggestion just tell them you are looking and not buying today and then don't worry if they get upset because you were honest about your intentions. Otherwise, check out the RV shows where they won't be able to focus on you.

Exactly what I told him.
I'm just trying to see many of the models out there being so many.
I wanna see different floor plans by many & then NEXT year when I'm ready, I choose from my 4 or 5 top favs & look them over again & make my final choice.
We told him we are NOT buying not being we are traveling to Scotland for a month & NOTHING will happen before that.

I also told him I need to sell off a lot of my toys that are taking up space in the space I plan to store the trailer & would be using that money for a larger down Payment!

But he acted as if he never heard any if it.

& then before visiting I told them the same thing on the phone & they said they could store it for me for free for the 1st 4 months until I cleared my space for it.

Push push push! Sell sell sell!
I wonder if their boss threatens to fire them if they don't push hard enough?

Sure, in a month you might change your mind and not buy, go to a different dealer or he might have the day off when you come back.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

If there's anything surprising is that he didn't chase you out the door throwing out lower offers.

You were honest, so it's his problem if he gets upset.

PS: to those suggesting to let the owner know...the owners all know. They may play along and pretend to be shocked but don't believe if for a moment.

[valhalla360]

westernrvparkowner wrote:
With the way everyone apparently feels about vehicle salespeople, why would anyone ever consider it as a career? You would be though of as a sleazeball thief, even if you were not. My experience has thankfully been different.

Unfortunately, a high percentage of salesmen do use these techniques and it's the most successful ones so they tend to hang around in the business.

If you find a good one, do business with him because otherwise, he will soon move on to another job.

Then again, if you go in knowing what the game is, you can ignore it or even turn it against them.

[HTElectrical]

Blanco1 wrote:
My God about a week ago I called Banning discount RV off the 10 Fwy in Southern California & the guy was so desperately trying anything he could to rope me in.
I finally had to hang up.

But today I happen to be driving by on my way from Tucson Az.
I figured why not drop in & see what they have?
Hopefully I wont meet that guy from the phone?

1st off they DO NOT actually hear what your telling them & are trying to figure out how to sell you on something they are showing you!

& then if the 1st guy don't lock you in they send in another guy to see if he has better luck!
But of course he don't listen much to the words coming out of your mouth either!
& they push to make sure they get your name & phone number & e-mail & keep pushing!

Much too aggressive!

Does this actually work on some people?

This is probably the 5th or 6th Dealer I've gone to & the only once that chased me away!

I finally explained that I've been driving all day & need to go pick up my dog from the Boarders & then still had an additional an hour & 45 minutes from there to get home.

So I politely asked for the 2nd salesman's Business card & he said sure let me go get it, I'll be right back.
We went to the car & took off!

I will never deal this place EVER & if anyone ever ask me I will tell them to stay away!

They don't listen & don't take no for an answer!

Does this actually work for them selling RV's?
Ill go back to people that actually listen & don't push!

I actually bought my TH from them. Great price, no problems here. I live in Vegas, told them exactly what I wanted and got an OTD price. Local dealer would not even come within $4,000.00 of their price, so I gave them a deposit and had them order it.

[Mr_Mark1]

Afidel, we didn't feel we needed to contact the owner. After all that was done and if the owner was not aware, he deserved not to get a sale.

I feel sure the 'event' was brought to the owner's attention and he apparently didn't care. And, if it wasn't brought to his attention, he deserves it for not being more hands on. No sympathy here.

MM.

[free_radical]

I went looking around RV place in Alberta in winter and the first thing salesman ask me if Im ready to buy today,,so I say sure,what TC have you got I can live in all winter here?
He Didnt say anything after that..

[afidel]

Mr.Mark wrote:
I have really never experience an 'aggressive' salesman. If that ever started with me, it would turn me off so fast that I would be walking out the door pronto.

I have a tendency to do a lot of research once I have zero'd in on a item that I'm looking for. Do I get the lowest price, probably not. I feel that I get a 'fair' price.

We have bought a couple of upper-end cars lately, two 2017's and a 2018.

In 2014, we special ordered a new 2015 upper-end car. We were going to trade two older cars of the same brand that were bought new and were in very good condition. Once the new car came in, we then had the two older cars valued. I knew what the cars were worth wholesale. We had bought 9 cars from this dealer and they gave us an extremely low-ball offer on both the trades.

It was such a slap in the face we cancelled the new car that had arrived on the lot expecting to lose the deposit. I just didn't understand the actions of a dealer that we had done business with since 1976. Apparently, it didn't make a difference, they didn't budge on the trade prices and after 3 months, our deposit came back without asking. We totally expected to forfeit the deposit. But, they stated that they didn't want to keep a deposit.

It's crazy because we will never buy from that dealership again. We didn't even bargain on the special ordered car, we were paying halfway between MSRP and cost (not counting kickbacks).

Anyway, a long term customer was lost. We have now moved on to a different manufacturer on all three new cars (two from the same, one from another).

MM.

I hope you let the owner know their sales team lost them a long term customer a why. Often the employees do what is in their best interest and not the owners so making them aware of the problem might change things for the better.

[Mr_Mark1]

I have really never experience an 'aggressive' salesman. If that ever started with me, it would turn me off so fast that I would be walking out the door pronto.

I have a tendency to do a lot of research once I have zero'd in on a item that I'm looking for. Do I get the lowest price, probably not. I feel that I get a 'fair' price.

We have bought a couple of upper-end cars lately, two 2017's and a 2018.

In 2014, we special ordered a new 2015 upper-end car. We were going to trade two older cars of the same brand that were bought new and were in very good condition. Once the new car came in, we then had the two older cars valued. I knew what the cars were worth wholesale. We had bought 9 cars from this dealer and they gave us an extremely low-ball offer on both the trades.

It was such a slap in the face we cancelled the new car that had arrived on the lot expecting to lose the deposit. I just didn't understand the actions of a dealer that we had done business with since 1976. Apparently, it didn't make a difference, they didn't budge on the trade prices and after 3 months, our deposit came back without asking. We totally expected to forfeit the deposit. But, they stated that they didn't want to keep a deposit.

It's crazy because we will never buy from that dealership again. We didn't even bargain on the special ordered car, we were paying halfway between MSRP and cost (not counting kickbacks).

Anyway, a long term customer was lost. We have now moved on to a different manufacturer on all three new cars (two from the same, one from another).

MM.