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imouthere56
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We are going to start traveling in the winter months nov-april but my wife is nervous about $$. We are both 60 we have no pensions but about xxxk in savings. I will work 6 months when we return each year, we have about 1500 month in payments, car, MH and HOA fees. is this possible to do?
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buc1980
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We was on the road a little over 3 month and we spend 2500-2800 $ a month.The campground and the diesel eat most of the budget.
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tatest
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I suggest you give retirement a year or two before committing to the added cost of moving a RV around. Your situation is not the same as those full-timing, they've abandoned the costs of maintaining a fixed home; for those of use who do not, that cost stays even when you are not using the home.

I am assuming you already have a RV and know the fixed costs for that, whether you use it or not, and this is already in your budget. Traveling will add costs on the order of $0.50 - $0.80 per mile travel, and additional rents of $200 to $2000 a month, depending on where you go, where you stay, whether or not you stay long enough to get monthly rates, and how good you are at finding and using free or low-cost locations.

We got our RV about 18 months after retirement. In the first year, we worked out what it cost to keep our home, what it cost to live day to day, and how much surplus income we had for luxuries like travel. That first year, we managed to travel extensively, being away more than six months (in short stretches) including international travel to visit family and friends, conventional car-motel-stay with relatives road trips, and our first cruise.

My wife continued to work when we were at home, but that was not very many days work, and she treated those earnings as her "mad money" for travel and to spend on our kids and grandkids. It about covered Bingo on cruises, as she worked less and less further into retirement.

Second year, we used part of what had been the first year's travel budget to get the RV, part of it to start making road trips in the RV, with a little left to visit our overseas daughter just once. The added cost meant no cruises that year. In the first six months of owning the RV, about 90 days of using it, half of that moving around, half of it staying places 3-5 days at a time. That gave us a handle on the cost of RVing for us, we could use that information for planning the next year.

Third year of retirement, we used the RV about 60 days, managed two cruises and one international trip by air, the combined RV/travel budget stayed the same, the RV cost of ownership cutting fairly deeply into what we previously had enjoyed using for travel.

Fourth year of retirement, my wife got sick. We managed some travel, a mix of RVing, cruising, and our first escorted international tour. Cost of health care, money and time, cut into the RVing budget. Almost half of our travel days became travel for health care. But the situation also got my wife into a mode "I've some savings of my own and I have only a year or two left, so we are going to use that to do what I want to do while I'm still alive." That's how the picture changes, and at our age it can change quickly. But planning needs to be for what you know, not what might be.

I can't really give you useful numbers, different people have different lifestyle preferences, different costs. The cost of my lifestyle might scare you, and other people might find it incredibly low because my income wouldn't cover their condo fees, let alone their housing costs. I have friends with wine bills larger than my income.

To sum it up, I say take it step by step. Find out what it costs you to live, find out what it costs you to RV, then figure out how much RVing you can afford to do. And don't forget about RV ownership costs. I'm in a RV club, and we've had new owners join who've had to quit after a year or so because ownership costs didn't leave them enough money to use the RV, and if you can't afford to use it, why own it?
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Tioga_George
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When I first began RVing back in 2003, I was able to camp in many places that are off-limits nowadays. Even in California!

But as the years rolled by, I found gates across some old dirt road that led to a used-to-be wonderful campsite.

George

creeper
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With the information given the question can not really be answered. You say no pension, but you have xxxx number of dollars in the bank. Well that could be anywhere from $5 to 5 Million.

$1500 a month in payments can be a lot as one person said or not much to someone else. Without your entire finical situation thrown out there it's really not a question that can be answered.

I have spoken to people who really can't afford to own an RV and travel like they do, but they do and they will only realize that in the future.


If you HAVE TO WORK 6 months out of the year to afford to live, it might not be a good idea. If want to work 6 months out of the year just to cover all your travel expenses without dipping into your savings then it might be for you.

You should NEVER use your principal savings fund for things like traveling.

With no pension and at your age can you live without working? If No then you shouldn't be traveling for that period of time, let alone own a RV.

If you must work, do you have 1-2 years in an emergency fund? Do you have the money to afford those payments if you become unable to work? Could you pay off all loans with cash if you were unable to continue to work?

There are so many variables in this equation.

trailertraveler
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As someone else mentioned, living in an RV can be inexpensive; travelling in one maybe not so. It depends on your definition of travel. If you stay in one spot, or at least a month in each location, than you will likely get the best rate for that particular campground/RV park. However; most state and federal campgrounds do not give weekly or monthly rates and may have stay limits. At 60 years of age, you will not be eligible for an America the Beautiful Senior Pass; so the 50% discount on campground fees that many retirees get that reduces their costs at Forest Service, BLM, Corps of Engineers and other federal campgrounds will not be available to you. In my experience, $100/week and $250/month are about as good a rate as one can get at a commercial campground/RV park. $20/night at a public campground, which in my experience is the low end for at least electric without a discount, comes out to $600/month.

As an example; during September/October 2013, a 6 week trip around New Mexico was a little over 1,100 miles destination to destination according to Streets and Trips. In and around would have to be added to that. Total fuel cost was a little over $1,000 and campground fees about $1,100.

As mentioned, some fulltimers and snow birds workamp or volunteer to reduce their site costs. How many hours per week are required and for how many weeks/months varies with each location/agency.

Boondocking is also frequently mentioned as a means of cutting costs. However, if your Motorhome is not already equipped with a pretty robust solar system and battery bank, you will need to run the large onboard generator a fair amount or invest in a small inverter generator. Power and water conservation measures for extended boondocking are more appealing to some than others. If you want/need internet while boondocking and use much data, cellular data plans can get pricey. If you want TV and stay in the real boondocks, than satelite TV is often the only option and yet another cost.

If your house is in a part of the country that gets very cold, you may or may not be able to save all that much on heating costs unless you can drain all the water lines, water heater, etc. that might freeze. The more services that you can suspend while you are gone, the lower your costs will be.

Hope this helps in your decision process.
Safe travels!
Trailertraveler

FunnyCamper
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this is a very open question ๐Ÿ™‚ and really no one can say if 'you can make it' on your financials.

figure around 2K per month basically. some higher, some can do it lower actually but I think around 2K is a very safe cost.

DO IT!! just do a month or 2 and see exactly what it costs, where you are drawing the money to pay for it and is it all worth it to you guys...cause there is not one guarantee in this life that you will live to pay off all your debt and life stands still for no one. It really is about how you want to live your life and what risks you are willing to take to make it happen ๐Ÿ™‚

best of luck to you!!

tatest
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My experience is that I can live in my RV for about the same cost as living at home, which is a low cost, low land value area. But I still have to pay those costs at home.

Moving around in the RV, that costs a lot more than living in it. But the biggest cost is just owning it. That's whether I use it or not. I know people living RV lifestyles with costs in the range of $600-800 a month and have met others living a $10,000 a month lifestyle, and I'm sure it can go higher.
Tom Test
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valhalla360
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campigloo wrote:
With what sounds like your worries are, you might check in on Dave Ramsey,s web site, Financial Peace University. He has some pretty good ideas on budgets and tracking money. It might help you get a better grasp of possibilities. Good luck and I really hope it all works out for you.


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FULLTIMEWANABE
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Imouthere56, I just happened to re-read your OP and concur from it that you already have the MH, so bearing that in mind, you'd still have your SnB costs and other general costs you already have although on a plus your utility bills for 6 months at the SnB would be less whilst you are not in residence, so the only additional expenses you would incur whilst travelling for those 6 months which are totally controllable by yourself are:

Fuel for the RV = totally controllable by yourself on how far you chose to travel
(you'd be using fuel at the SnB for the towed so awash on that if similar mileage)
CG Costs = again minimal if you boondock 95% of the time just entering odd nights to empty & refill

Just sayin' FWIW.
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Roy_Lynne
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ou know its all so subjective, but if you want to travel and you have x amount to spend, do it. There are ways to see the world without it costing your life savings. 1) Travel in shot hops, We use to follow an RVer, Tioga George and he drove 30 miles a day, that was his limit. He spent nights boondocking in all sorts of places and spent very little money. Tioga George Archives
Very often if you rent by the week or month, camp sites are cheaper than with the daily rate. Any place you settle has sites to see and places to go visit. There are some clubs you can join to get bargain prices like Passport American and Escapees. Boondock as much as you can, and I'm not talking about WalMart parking lots either.

2gypsies1
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Full-timers typically can live very comfortably on $2-3,000/month. That includes travel, fuel, places to stay, food, vehicle insurance, medical, registrations, vehicle maintenance, etc. In other words, all living expenses that one would spend on in a regular house.

Snowbirders need to take into account what the regular house expenses are that you'll still have to pay while you're gone such as electric, gas, insurance, etc. On top of that you will then have travel fuel expenses, campgrounds, food and misc. Everyone is different in their home expenses and how they travel during the winter.

Basically you can cut back drastically on RV travel expenses by staying in much cheaper RV parks rather than one that has a lot of amenities. You could limit your driving distance (fuel) to get there, you could stay in one place for the entire time and get a better rate than daily or weekly.

Food expense should be the same as when you're at home. You will probably eat the same and if you're not one to go to restaurants normally then you don't have to go to restaurants while traveling.

Same for entertainment. Many folks do free things. That's up to you on how much outside entertainment you need.

So really, no one can tell you exactly how much it will cost. Everyone is different. You'll just have to do some figuring based on your finances. I will say that if you can get that RV and vehicle paid off you'll feel a lot better. With full-timers, especially, it's recommended that you be debt-free before beginning the new lifestyle. I would guess that the majority of snowbirders are not debt-free.

Start by calling some RV parks that would be possibilities for you. Then roughly calculate how much fuel to get there and back. Then estimate other expenses and you'll soon come up with a good approximate idea.

Good luck and hope you can get away during the harshest time of winter if only for 2-3 months.
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Old-Biscuit
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At 60 yrs, old and no pensions
I would NOT be spending 'savings' on trips/travel
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campigloo
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With what sounds like your worries are, you might check in on Dave Ramsey,s web site, Financial Peace University. He has some pretty good ideas on budgets and tracking money. It might help you get a better grasp of possibilities. Good luck and I really hope it all works out for you.

GMandJM
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imouthere56 wrote:
We are going to start traveling in the winter months nov-april but my wife is nervous about $$. We are both 60 we have no pensions but about xxxk in savings. I will work 6 months when we return each year, we have about 1500 month in payments, car, MH and HOA fees. is this possible to do?


Alot depends not only how how you spend your money but also on where you want to spend your winter. Florida can be more expensive than Texas or Arizona.

And if you sit more than you drive, fuel will be less of an expense.

Only you know what your lifestyle, expenses and assets are. If you put pen to paper and your wife is still nervous, then ask her what would make her feel easier about the situation (more money in the bank? car paid off? life insurance policy since you're the only income in the family?).

And for those who think you can't/shouldn't hit the road without everything in your life being paid for "free and clear", we'll just have to agree to disagree. I sleep just fine at night even though I have a MH payment to make every month for the next 218 months ๐Ÿ˜‰
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