If the CG office wants to photocopy your DL...

[Ductape]

and keep it in their files, what is your response?

Driver's License in case that's not clear. I'll post back my own opinion later; don't want to tilt the scale at the outset.

Thanks for your thoughts.

[2oldman]

captnjack wrote:
Why is it OK to let the Dr's office copy the license? Most of them these days have a dozen people in the front office. Do you know and trust every one of them? It's really kind of silly for that to be the one exception.

Irrational fear creates all sorts of goblins.

[Marine_By_Choic]

Ductape wrote:
and keep it in their files, what is your response?

Driver's License in case that's not clear. I'll post back my own opinion later; don't want to tilt the scale at the outset.

Thanks for your thoughts.

When/If that ever occurs just tell them you don't have one. When I am asked to see my ID I normally show them my Costco card or VA card. When told they need to see my drivers license I say I lost it.

[captnjack]

ktmrfs wrote:

EV2 wrote:
What possible information is there that you are worried about? No one in their right mind has their ss# on their dl, so that leaves an arbitrary state assigned number, name and address that matches what you include in your registration or reservation. I suppose you could worry about your height, weight, and hair color, but that is pretty obvious as you stand there and on every security camera, Your credit card, while traveling, is another matter if someone copies the security code.

and it let's someone know you are NOT at home. Airports and hotels are prime spots for people to get addresses from knowing it is a prime opportunity for a breakin.

And getting someones name, address, height wt etc is a lot of valuable info for a thief.

There are dozens of ways to know you're not home. Chief among them the fact that your giant RV that is stored at your house is no longer at your house. Yes I know some store elsewhere but you get the point.

I don't see how knowing height and weight really helps a thief. Unless his/her plan is to impersonate you. But I don't think that's what they usually do.

Eight pages of responses and almost no real explanations given as to why we shouldn't let them copy the license. Just some vague fears of identity theft. And a certain small percentage of us will be victims of this no matter what we do. Too much of our information is out ther already. I suspect most identity theft is accomplished via crooked people on the inside at banks, Motor Vehicle offices, etc. Almost impossible to defend against. Not to mention you are not responsible (at least in my state) for these fraudulent charges.

Why is it OK to let the Dr's office copy the license? Most of them these days have a dozen people in the front office. Do you know and trust every one of them? It's really kind of silly for that to be the one exception.

[ktmrfs]

EV2 wrote:
What possible information is there that you are worried about? No one in their right mind has their ss# on their dl, so that leaves an arbitrary state assigned number, name and address that matches what you include in your registration or reservation. I suppose you could worry about your height, weight, and hair color, but that is pretty obvious as you stand there and on every security camera, Your credit card, while traveling, is another matter if someone copies the security code.

and it let's someone know you are NOT at home. Airports and hotels are prime spots for people to get addresses from knowing it is a prime opportunity for a breakin.

And getting someones name, address, height wt etc is a lot of valuable info for a thief.

[phillyg]

SolidAxleDurango wrote:
The same thing happens at every hotel on earth.... How's this any different?

I've never had that request at any hotel, other than for confirmation of ID for credit card verification. I don't recall Homeland Security requiring it, either, but I'm not going to waste my time looking it up.

[westernrvparkow]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Per CC agreement between CC company and Business ALL they are supposed to do is verify your signature.

And how do you suggest I verify that signature? Have a forensic document examiner on staff? IF (big if, maybe 33%) the person actually signed the back of the credit card and then signed the signature box on the credit card machine (with either their finger or that boxy pen on the cord) how am I supposed to determine if those signatures match? I know my signatures look like they were written by different apes every time I write it.
Most credit card fraud is stolen numbers then encoded onto blank cards, so the thief puts any name and signature they want on the card. Or, the numbers are used to make electronic purchases over the internet. I would doubt there has ever been a stolen card used to rent an RV site. Heck, it would be a dead giveaway as to where the thief was. And it would be very easy for law enforcement to trace anyone who was stealing identity at a business location. The trail would be a bright red line to that business. Not too smart. I sure would love to see the documentation anyone could provide that would show they ever had their identity stolen by an RV Park.

[ktmrfs]

SolidAxleDurango wrote:
The same thing happens at every hotel on earth.... How's this any different?

I've been asked to show a DL, but NEVER have anyone photocopied it.

Personally, I'd say no, you can look at it, that's it.

[mich800]

rhagfo wrote:

EV2 wrote:
7 rental cars......

Sorry, but to be true they had to have your credit card too. As a principal with three nationwide rental car companies, I can tell you they do not check numbers with DMV, but do have to have valid credit cards in the same name which are checked with the cc provider before the keys are handed over. Not getting the whole story here?

:B

Well as I travel for work, I don't even stop at the rental car counter, just go straight to the car. Only issue is making sure it is on the correct card for the type of travel business or pleasure. :S

That is because they already have your cc and dl info on file.

[beemerphile1]

Old Duck wrote:
Having had ID fraud occur in the last year, I would ask them to block out the DL and DOB on the photocopy and verify it by showing me the copy. You never know where it ends up.

Are you aware that modern copiers hold every item ever copied in the memory of the copier? You better black the info before being copied if you are concerned about it. Me? I don't care, my credit is frozen.

[Steeljag]

What are these things you call "checks" ?? And why are so many people "walking" away ? Why not get in you rigs and drive away ? Are they being stolen while the DL copy is being discussed ?

Campgrounds are fraud fronts, organized crime I tell ya !!

Gotta go....there is a black helicopter over me.

[Ozlander]

Old-Biscuit wrote:
Information to Keep Private
Very Infrequently Provide Your...
*Bank account number----Your bank will probably require this number when it sets up your online banking, as will any credit-card accounts you set up with automatic payments from the bank account. After that, no other sites should ask for or need this information.

Oh poo, when you write a check, you give out your bank account number and the routing number. It's just an address in the banking system.

[Dog_Folks]

EV2 wrote:
What possible information is there that you are worried about? No one in their right mind has their ss# on their dl..........

"Use of the SSN in State drivers license systems is already authorized by Federal law, and 29 States currently use the SSN as the drivers license number or show it on the license."

[westernrvparkow]

I can speak from personal experience that running an RV Park as a front to steal people's identity is too much work.
OH, and all that effort people put into making sure their credit cards aren't compromised such as writing "see ID" on the back is worthless. We go through the exercise when we see it on the card, but 99% of the time the picture on the driver's license looks nothing like the person standing in front of me. Good lord, my credit card processing system has captured your card information when you check in. If I wanted to buy a Ferrari with it, I have all the information I need. All the other hoops just waste your and my time.

[mich800]

SARGUY wrote:
Why would you give your Drivers License info to some clerk who already has your credit card info. Now he has your home address and other personal information. What possible legal requirement can justify his demand for this information? Don t do it, you WILL regret it if you do.

No, they have a credit card presented for payment with no verification that individual is authorized to use that card. A credit card is not identification.