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If your in Cali.....Lookout!!!!!

dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
I hope this is a joke! Truck, Trailer and.......Jeep?
Wife Kim
Son Brandon 17yrs
Daughter Marissa 16yrs
Dog Bailey

12 Forest River Georgetown 350TS Hellwig sway bars, BlueOx TrueCenter stabilizer

13 Ford Explorer Roadmaster Stowmaster 5000, VIP Tow>
A bad day camping is
better than a good day at work!
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BarneyS
Explorer III
Explorer III
We have had 6 pages of back and forth opinions. Some of the remarks have been deleted for becoming personal in nature. Time to put this thread to bed.
Barney
2004 Sunnybrook Titan 30FKS TT
Hensley "Arrow" 1400# hitch (Sold)
Not towing now.
Former tow vehicles were 2016 Ram 2500 CTD, 2002 Ford F250, 7.3 PSD, 1997 Ram 2500 5.9 gas engine

bigcitypopo
Explorer
Explorer
legal in CA with the right DL rating
2014 RAM 2500 BigHorn CrewCab 4x2 ShortBox, 6.7L CTD
2014 Keystone Springdale 294bhssrwe - Hensley Arrow!
The best wife, 2 kids and a bunch of fun

coolbreeze01
Explorer
Explorer
gon2dadawgs wrote:
Gee they are going fishing.....trolling! It is NOT legal in CA. The weight alone would require air brakes.

You Tube is for fun and silly games.


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When the tow vehicle has air brakes, often the trailer will too, but not always.
2008 Ram 3500 With a Really Strong Tractor Motor...........
LB, SRW, 4X4, 6-Speed Auto, 3.73, Prodigy P3, Blue Ox Sway Pro........
2014 Sandsport 26FBSL

nevadanick
Explorer
Explorer
No not you, gone2dadogs is. Airbrakes ? Really ?

gijoecam
Explorer
Explorer
nevadanick wrote:
Your clueless


Me? I thought we were on the same side of this discussion?..... ๐Ÿ˜•

gijoecam
Explorer
Explorer
gon2dadawgs wrote:
Gee they are going fishing.....trolling! It is NOT legal in CA. The weight alone would require air brakes.


Statements like that made without facts to back them up are called opinions. It's entirely possible that, through a plethora of gaps in the laws, that rig may be perfectly legal for the operator of the truck, provided he meets all the criteria as set forth in the CA MVC and has the proper licensing. Until somebody can cite the law that shows this rig is illegal, I'm thinking it's perfectly OK.

gon2dadawgs
Explorer
Explorer
Gee they are going fishing.....trolling! It is NOT legal in CA. The weight alone would require air brakes.

You Tube is for fun and silly games.
Home is where you unhitch

Brisk
Explorer II
Explorer II
BarneyS wrote:

I think you are correct, however I was not arguing that towing doubles is either dangerous or not. I was simply arguing against his claim that "When setup correctly towing doubles is no different than a single".
Barney


Not trying to start a pissing match here. I agree that correctly setup doubles and correctly setup singles are different. That being said, towing doubles is usually very safe and setup very well. The drivers are usually more highly skilled than some newbie with their first travel trailer and SUV and therefore their rigs are setup very well. Almost all the guys pulling doubles have a lot of driving and RVing experience to boot.

A Lot of the guys on this board freak out whenever they see someone pulling doubles and it is very nieve.
Brent('85) & Lindsay('86) DDs('08 &'11)

'14 RAM Laramie 3500SRW CCLB Cummins/4x4/68RFE
-B&W Turnover Ball/Anderson Ultimate Aluminum

Toyhauler-'06 Forest River Sierra Sport F32

2001 Malibu Sunsetter VLX Wakeboat

nevadanick
Explorer
Explorer
I used to travel Around Nv alot and have yet to see a set of rv doubles that has crashed. Cant say the same for a single. Also with the semi's i have seen numerous singles crashed and one set of doubles but have never seen a set of triples crashed. Doent mean it doesnt happen but when your on the road alot and are observant you see these things. And other than the length i still say the doubles are no different pulling or stopping than a single. Try it sometime, you just might like it.

BarneyS
Explorer III
Explorer III
Brisk wrote:
BarneyS wrote:

I'll try to explain.
Probably because his rig was not set up correctly. He most likely did not have enough tongue weight.

While your rig may be perfectly stable at 70mph, probably due to proper loading and setup, I think that if you had to do an emergency maneuver your double tow rig would act quite different from a single trailer being towed and would be much harder to control. I would say that towing doubles is quite different than towing single.
Barney


I think the same could be said for towing doubles with a 5th wheel and what about Semis pulling triples on converter dollies? They have 5 pivot points. A lot of them are towed by (relatively)light short wheelbase Day Cab style tractors. I think that the rig (assuming it pulls well)in the Youtube video is no more dangerous than the UPS guys with 3 trailers.

This is coming from someone with a Class A CDL who has pulled doubles with a Chevy Tahoe and with my current Truck/5er combo.

I think you are correct, however I was not arguing that towing doubles is either dangerous or not. I was simply arguing against his claim that "When setup correctly towing doubles is no different than a single".
Barney
2004 Sunnybrook Titan 30FKS TT
Hensley "Arrow" 1400# hitch (Sold)
Not towing now.
Former tow vehicles were 2016 Ram 2500 CTD, 2002 Ford F250, 7.3 PSD, 1997 Ram 2500 5.9 gas engine

Brisk
Explorer II
Explorer II
nevadanick wrote:
I can say this, those of us that tow doubles will never convince the uninformed, unexperianced naysayers.


^^This FTW. FWIW I have seen numerous rigs wrecked on the side of the road over the years but I do not recall ever seeing an rver pulling doubles that wrecked. although I am sure it has happened somewhere. I know a lot of guys personally that have pulled doubles for years with no problems, myself included.
Brent('85) & Lindsay('86) DDs('08 &'11)

'14 RAM Laramie 3500SRW CCLB Cummins/4x4/68RFE
-B&W Turnover Ball/Anderson Ultimate Aluminum

Toyhauler-'06 Forest River Sierra Sport F32

2001 Malibu Sunsetter VLX Wakeboat

nevadanick
Explorer
Explorer
I can say this, those of us that tow doubles will never convince the uninformed, unexperianced naysayers.

nevadanick
Explorer
Explorer
I know why it was swaying yet according to some on here we are dangerous. Just not true, the guy pulling the tent trlr that was loaded wrong is far more dangerous than me pulling properly loaded doubles and i have had to stop hard with the doubles and know how they react.

Brisk
Explorer II
Explorer II
BarneyS wrote:

I'll try to explain.
Probably because his rig was not set up correctly. He most likely did not have enough tongue weight.

While your rig may be perfectly stable at 70mph, probably due to proper loading and setup, I think that if you had to do an emergency maneuver your double tow rig would act quite different from a single trailer being towed and would be much harder to control. I would say that towing doubles is quite different than towing single.
Barney


I think the same could be said for towing doubles with a 5th wheel and what about Semis pulling triples on converter dollies? They have 5 pivot points. A lot of them are towed by (relatively)light short wheelbase Day Cab style tractors. I think that the rig (assuming it pulls well)in the Youtube video is no more dangerous than the UPS guys with 3 trailers.

This is coming from someone with a Class A CDL who has pulled doubles with a Chevy Tahoe and with my current Truck/5er combo.
Brent('85) & Lindsay('86) DDs('08 &'11)

'14 RAM Laramie 3500SRW CCLB Cummins/4x4/68RFE
-B&W Turnover Ball/Anderson Ultimate Aluminum

Toyhauler-'06 Forest River Sierra Sport F32

2001 Malibu Sunsetter VLX Wakeboat