kinda off the subject just a funny story about my wife her uncle and his dish. He only place he could get a signal was with his dish on top of our f'ver what with all the trees. He would use a picnic table to stand on to adjust it. So every so often my wife would give his cable a tug then wait for uncle to show up. All different times of day and time. The best we had all gone out to eat and she got back early and did the tug thing then the entire family got together for the rest of the evening. As we all settled in for the night there is uncle outside standing on the picnic table and the dw starts in loudly about the peeping tom outside of her bedroom somebody trying to look in at us. before long all aunts and uncles and cousins are there ribbing poor spunky about peeking at his niece. He kept right on adjusting until he got a good picture, he slept with the tv on. We still tease him years later, had a lot of fun with her family!!!