Max Payload vs. Pin Weight (Ford, Ram, Chevy)
Hi, I recently bought a new 5th wheel and truck to tow it. I got a 40 foot Open Range with a 2500 pound pin weight. I was looking at fairly loaded SRW long bed diesels from Ford, Chevy and Ram...
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So here’s my thoughts. 1). Can we all agree that Ford, Ram, and GM HD CC SWR trucks would tow the same weight well regardless of the GVWR? 300 lbs difference between payload on the Ram and Ford would be nothing for that fine Ford Truck, same for the Chevy.
So me looking at the numbers on with my Cedar Creek 34 IK. So really I’m not focused on the GVWR. I’m focused on the axle and tire weight ratings. Once I get a small extra diesel tank and my fifth wheel loaded up ~ 14500 lbs. I will be right around 3400 lbs on the rear.
I agree that an over 16000 lb fifth wheel should have a duel rear wheel setup. But I also believe that a fifth wheel under 16,000 lbs is SWR territory. These are not the trucks of the early 2000’s, they are very capable.
Plus I will be about 10% below my payload on my build sheet and probably nearly 20% below the max tire weight rating.
Now if this turns out to be untrue I’ll let ya know.
One thing about tire weight ratings. I have driven my Class C at max tire weight load rating for the last six years with no issues. I do have a very good TPMS and I’m mindful of my speed. I generally have no problem loading a good quality tire right to its max rating as manufacturers have a lot of leeway built into those ratings.
If I ever get where I don’t like what I’m seeing, I will go with RideRites on the rear of the truck similar to my Class C and I will put Rickson’s on the truck with 19.5 inch tires that have the same outside diameter as the Ram with 18 inch tires but they will be about to have nearly 10000 lbs on the rear for additional payload. But I will never go over 16,000 lbs with a SWR.
So me looking at the numbers on with my Cedar Creek 34 IK. So really I’m not focused on the GVWR. I’m focused on the axle and tire weight ratings. Once I get a small extra diesel tank and my fifth wheel loaded up ~ 14500 lbs. I will be right around 3400 lbs on the rear.
I agree that an over 16000 lb fifth wheel should have a duel rear wheel setup. But I also believe that a fifth wheel under 16,000 lbs is SWR territory. These are not the trucks of the early 2000’s, they are very capable.
Plus I will be about 10% below my payload on my build sheet and probably nearly 20% below the max tire weight rating.
Now if this turns out to be untrue I’ll let ya know.
One thing about tire weight ratings. I have driven my Class C at max tire weight load rating for the last six years with no issues. I do have a very good TPMS and I’m mindful of my speed. I generally have no problem loading a good quality tire right to its max rating as manufacturers have a lot of leeway built into those ratings.
If I ever get where I don’t like what I’m seeing, I will go with RideRites on the rear of the truck similar to my Class C and I will put Rickson’s on the truck with 19.5 inch tires that have the same outside diameter as the Ram with 18 inch tires but they will be about to have nearly 10000 lbs on the rear for additional payload. But I will never go over 16,000 lbs with a SWR.
