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missouri_dave's avatar
Aug 12, 2016

Practical size/weight limit on toad?

I just finished watching a youtube video on the dynamax super c rigs. With a 20k tow hitch/capacity is there any reason you couldn't use a full size 4x4 truck as a toad? The dodge power wagon has front and rear lockers, any reason you couldn't tow it?
  • pauldub wrote:
    I often see DPs pulling full size pickups.


    We have an '04 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the C-7 330HP CAT and the Allison MH3000 trans. We tow an '11 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Extended Cab that carries a 2008 Honda GL 1800 on a Rampage motorcycle lift/carrier. We've been doing it for a few years now and, we've not had one issue.

    "I just finished watching a youtube video on the dynamax super c rigs. With a 20k tow hitch/capacity is there any reason you couldn't use a full size 4x4 truck as a toad? The dodge power wagon has front and rear lockers, any reason you couldn't tow it?"

    The very first thing you need to do is, investigate the owners manual for that particular truck. Specifically look up the part that talks about "Recreational towing-behind a motor home". You may or may not have to bounce around that manual and consult different sections, based on the fact that it is a 4x4 and, has it's "Lockers". And speaking of those, since I'm not familiar with those supplied by them, like I am with factory lockers for Jeep Rubicons, are they "controllable" or, should I say, can you manually engage and disengage them at your control?

    I'm going to assume you can due to the intricate/mechanical/logical/safe operations of driving it on the street.

    So, if that's the case, then "lockers" on your Dodge truck, have no effect on street manors, unless they're not "selectable" (meaning you can control them). And even the ones that are locked all the time, as in Detroit or Lockright, you can still tow a vehicle that's equipped with those due to the fact that they don't have any effect on road manors while being towed. Anyway, hope some of this helps with your quest.
    Scott
  • We tow the full size truck shown in my signature. Some times with a RZR in the bed.
  • With a 20K tow capacity, I see no reason to exclude any vehicle for a toad that can be towed 4-down, except of course those that weigh 20K or more....well maybe 15K....ok, ok how about 10k?

    Ron
  • Yes. size is not a thing but weight is. Many toads are small because of the weight factor, I don't want to pull anything over 4K. The more the toad weighs, the more the coach has to pull, and stop. Toad brakes help a lot, but it will still push you. Don't notice it too much in flat country, but when you hit a long steep pull, it can really make a difference. Many RVs are close to the weight limit for their motors anyway, so the added weight can put it close to the limit. Try driving I-40 from Memphis to the coast, and if the climb to Crossville, TN doesn't get you, then Black Mountain might. Another one is I-26 from Ashville to Bristol. Not too steep, but a long straight pull.
  • Did not know that. Thanks for the info. Still question remains. If flat towing the toad were no issue, is the size/weight a problem? Seems like all the toads I see are small.
  • Owner's Manual says flat towing is not allowed. Dolly or trailer OK.