โDec-12-2013 01:50 PM
โDec-15-2013 11:34 AM
mlts22 wrote:
I do something slightly different... I blow out the lines, add vodka, blow them out again. Any water in the lines will have its freeze point lowered to where it isn't an issue in Texas weather. (Now that I stated that, watch Murphy come along and send Austin 0 degree temperatures for a few days straight.)
โDec-15-2013 11:07 AM
โDec-15-2013 10:53 AM
Vulcaneer wrote:WyCamper wrote:
Just discovered that undiluted Supertech RV antifreeze, rated for -50F and sold at Wal-Mart, freezes solid at MINUS 2F!! I have 6 gallons of undiluted SuperTech in my 2010 5th wheel currently. Went out a few days ago to check that my toilet seal was holding antifreeze and found it frozen solid. Took pic with box of matches set on it. Bought another gallon at Walmart this week and set it out, unopened, two nights at below zero. Took another pic of it frozen solid this morning at Minus 2F. Getting the run-around from Wal-Mart, all they want to do is give me replacement product...they are missing the point. SUPERTECH should be pulled from the shelves and change their advertised rating of "-50F".
Funny...all these pages of responses and not one (that I saw) questions that he has used 6 gallons of A/F in his 5th wheel.
To the OP. You should try not to fill your water heater, or put a large amount of A/F in your tanks. My 38 foot trailer takes about 1 1/2 gallons. That includes the clothes washer and P-Traps. None in the water heater or fresh water tank. When (we snow bird) in warm weather, I run clean water thru the system for about 5 minutes, (with open faucets and open low point drains) to clear out any residual A/F. Run one empty load thru the clothes washer. Never get any after taste or odor.
โDec-15-2013 09:23 AM
WyCamper wrote:
Just discovered that undiluted Supertech RV antifreeze, rated for -50F and sold at Wal-Mart, freezes solid at MINUS 2F!! I have 6 gallons of undiluted SuperTech in my 2010 5th wheel currently. Went out a few days ago to check that my toilet seal was holding antifreeze and found it frozen solid. Took pic with box of matches set on it. Bought another gallon at Walmart this week and set it out, unopened, two nights at below zero. Took another pic of it frozen solid this morning at Minus 2F. Getting the run-around from Wal-Mart, all they want to do is give me replacement product...they are missing the point. SUPERTECH should be pulled from the shelves and change their advertised rating of "-50F".
โDec-15-2013 08:54 AM
Supercharged wrote:WyCamper wrote:Remember at W-Mart you saved 7 cents on a loaf of bread.
Just discovered that undiluted Supertech RV antifreeze, rated for -50F and sold at Wal-Mart, freezes solid at MINUS 2F!! I have 6 gallons of undiluted SuperTech in my 2010 5th wheel currently. Went out a few days ago to check that my toilet seal was holding antifreeze and found it frozen solid. Took pic with box of matches set on it. Bought another gallon at Walmart this week and set it out, unopened, two nights at below zero. Took another pic of it frozen solid this morning at Minus 2F. Getting the run-around from Wal-Mart, all they want to do is give me replacement product...they are missing the point. SUPERTECH should be pulled from the shelves and change their advertised rating of "-50F".
โDec-15-2013 05:32 AM
JJBIRISH wrote:
A dry system wouldnโt need protectedโฆ but I havenโt seen a dry system that was used until winterization and then blown outโฆ yes they had compressed air run through them to empty the bulk waterโฆ but they are not dry, and I have repaired more because they thought the system was dry, and it wasnโt, than for any other reasonโฆ I have never repaired one the was winterized with the pink stuff when done properlyโฆ
As a matter of fact every one that I was told was winterized with air alone already, I was able to blow more water out of the lines a week or a month laterโฆ sometimes a significant amount of water ( I know, I hear it all the time, I have done it for years with no problems)โฆ
Sometimes the plumbing is stubbed out for an outside shower or a washer that was never installed, if you look at most RV plumbing installations itโs easy to find one low spot after anotherโฆ blowing the lines out seldom gets all the water out and works as long as enough of whatโs left behind doesnโt pool in one spot or fittingโฆ
โDec-15-2013 04:58 AM
JJBIRISH wrote:
A dry system wouldnโt need protectedโฆ but I havenโt seen a dry system that was used until winterization and then blown outโฆ yes they had compressed air run through them to empty the bulk waterโฆ but they are not dry, and I have repaired more because they thought the system was dry, and it wasnโt, than for any other reasonโฆ I have never repaired one the was winterized with the pink stuff when done properlyโฆ
As a matter of fact every one that I was told was winterized with air alone already, I was able to blow more water out of the lines a week or a month laterโฆ sometimes a significant amount of water ( I know, I hear it all the time, I have done it for years with no problems)โฆ
Sometimes the plumbing is stubbed out for an outside shower or a washer that was never installed, if you look at most RV plumbing installations itโs easy to find one low spot after anotherโฆ blowing the lines out seldom gets all the water out and works as long as enough of whatโs left behind doesnโt pool in one spot or fittingโฆ
โDec-14-2013 07:09 PM
โDec-14-2013 05:24 PM
โDec-14-2013 04:52 AM
Mike LeClair wrote:
Don't worry about the antagonistic nature of some of the elderly curmudgeons. Heck, I got roasted and flamed for committing the sacrilege of referring to the water heater as a "hot water heater". Take it easy on conclusion jumping without doing some research to back yourself up and don't ever venture out without your flame proof suit on.
Cheers!
Mike
โDec-13-2013 08:49 PM
โDec-13-2013 06:10 PM
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โDec-13-2013 03:08 PM
Georgew48 wrote:Mocoondo wrote:
Yes it does freeze. ๐
I've been telling people this for years. And yes, it does expand too. I've seen far too many water systems damaged by the "pink stuff" that I will never use it. The only anti-freeze you have half a chance with is the good marine anti-freeze that has burst protection down to very low temps.
Must be thousands and thousands of Rv'ers and dealers/manufactors out there with busted pipes every spring. I guess we just don't hear from them. Guess I've been lucky for the past 45 years also since I've used the pink stuff for that long in some very cold winters and I've never had a busted pipe.