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[Dick_A]

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[WILDEBILL308]

$2.07 diesel at Buc-ee's North of San Antonio in New_Braunfels off I-35.They always have the lowest prices and the most pumps Well how many other stations have you ben to that had 60 pumps?
https://www.buc-ees.com/locations.php
And you might like to read this
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g56350-d3222720-r148567370-Buc_ee_s-New_Braunfels_Texas.html

[Bumpyroad]

$185.9, South Hill, VA

[2oldman]

Don't see this every day! Quartzsite AZ.

[John___Angela]

tomman58 wrote:
John, I remember when I first got my Volt. People would come over and start conversations about it, they were impressed with it . what a kick.
Now with the X can you imagine pulling into the parking lot at the super market and hitting the button to activate those "falcon wings" for the back seat. I can hear the Wows now. Tough to get one now but in a couple years who knows......................

Yah, awesome car but unless I win the lottery out of my reach...then again, so is a ferrari. 🙂

Filled up with diesel yesterday at 1.04 per litre Can or roughly 2.95 American per gallon. We always seem to be a few cents per litre above the average here. No idea why.

[tomman58]

John, I remember when I first got my Volt. People would come over and start conversations about it, they were impressed with it . what a kick.
Now with the X can you imagine pulling into the parking lot at the super market and hitting the button to activate those "falcon wings" for the back seat. I can hear the Wows now. Tough to get one now but in a couple years who knows......................

[John___Angela]

LindsayRichards wrote:
It is only $132,000. What a buy.

Yah pretty pricey still. But any gas burner with that kind of performance is about the same....OR MORE.

Heck, we have people drive on the lot with F350 duallys worth about 80,000 bucks. And they use it to pull their fifth wheel south once a year. Different strokes...

I think any muscle car fan would be blown away by a ride in many of the electrics of today. Even the cheap ones. We have had more than a few people take a ride in our little smart ED and uttered a few "holy S..." expletives as it goes through the first 40 mph. The acceleration curve on the smart drops off to a more normal acceleration curve after the first 40 miles an hour or so but that first 40 mph is rather eye opening. Something like 4.2 seconds. Kinda fun. 🙂

[LindsayRichards]

It is only $132,000. What a buy.

[tomman58]

The new Tesla X
http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2015/09/30/tesla-model-x-crossover/73073968/

Guess what it is the fastest SUV 0-60 3.2 seconds, top speed 155 mph. Of course it is electric!
AND
It can tow 5000 lbs. Not maybe a 40'TT but getting there LOL.

[Bumpyroad]

$1.899 in south hill, va
bumpy

[John___Angela]

tomman58 wrote:

John & Angela wrote:

LindsayRichards wrote:
Our town has two solar charging stations (adjacent) that after 2 years are awaiting their first customer. It was put in for free by a federal grant.

NJ source of electricity

Yah, you know they do the same stupid stuff up here. What are they thinking. They put these publicly funded ones in the dumbest of places. Colleges, city hall parking lots, libraries. If they really feel the need to spend tax dollars to put in charging infrastructure to encourage electric vehicles then do local studies to find out where they would have the most usage. We have one down town on a public lot thats actually not to badly located. It's a few extra blocks to most of the stuff we need but still doable. If I am down town for a couple hours we use it. On this one it is tap and go with the credit card. Technically you are just paying for parking and since you have to pay for parking anyway, what the heck.

Plug share is a good app and I can see where some places including malls are getting on board. It'll get better in time.

Here in the D we have many charging stations and from what I gather plenty more to come. I think with the new electrics coming out in the next couple years the demand will grow a lot.
We loved our Volt and would have gotten another but it sounded like so many new ones were in the pipeline we would wait for a couple years before getting our next one. I might add several areas here are "free" charge zones!

We liked our test drive in the volt but the idea of the extended range for us with the gas back up wasn't necessary for our life style and needs. Straight electric is a better fit for us. No oil changes, filters, belts etc. Top up the washer fluid once per year and we are done. At some point we'll swap out our other oil burner for a second electric in a few years. For that one we are thinking the 200 mile range of the 2017 leaf might be a good fit. We'll see.

[tomman58]

John & Angela wrote:

LindsayRichards wrote:
Our town has two solar charging stations (adjacent) that after 2 years are awaiting their first customer. It was put in for free by a federal grant.

NJ source of electricity

Yah, you know they do the same stupid stuff up here. What are they thinking. They put these publicly funded ones in the dumbest of places. Colleges, city hall parking lots, libraries. If they really feel the need to spend tax dollars to put in charging infrastructure to encourage electric vehicles then do local studies to find out where they would have the most usage. We have one down town on a public lot thats actually not to badly located. It's a few extra blocks to most of the stuff we need but still doable. If I am down town for a couple hours we use it. On this one it is tap and go with the credit card. Technically you are just paying for parking and since you have to pay for parking anyway, what the heck.

Plug share is a good app and I can see where some places including malls are getting on board. It'll get better in time.

Here in the D we have many charging stations and from what I gather plenty more to come. I think with the new electrics coming out in the next couple years the demand will grow a lot.
We loved our Volt and would have gotten another but it sounded like so many new ones were in the pipeline we would wait for a couple years before getting our next one. I might add several areas here are "free" charge zones!

[John___Angela]

LindsayRichards wrote:
Our town has two solar charging stations (adjacent) that after 2 years are awaiting their first customer. It was put in for free by a federal grant.

NJ source of electricity

Yah, you know they do the same stupid stuff up here. What are they thinking. They put these publicly funded ones in the dumbest of places. Colleges, city hall parking lots, libraries. If they really feel the need to spend tax dollars to put in charging infrastructure to encourage electric vehicles then do local studies to find out where they would have the most usage. We have one down town on a public lot thats actually not to badly located. It's a few extra blocks to most of the stuff we need but still doable. If I am down town for a couple hours we use it. On this one it is tap and go with the credit card. Technically you are just paying for parking and since you have to pay for parking anyway, what the heck.

Plug share is a good app and I can see where some places including malls are getting on board. It'll get better in time.

[John___Angela]

jfkmk wrote:

John & Angela wrote:

LindsayRichards wrote:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/24/heres-how-govt-makes-buying-gas-more-expensive/#ixzz3mmGIREsw

Interesting article although it seems to suggest (or maybe I'm reading to much into it) that EPA or clean air regulations are in some way a detriment to our lives because of higher fuel costs. If that is there intention, that would be nonsense. I have travelled to places in the world that don't have governing bodies in place like the EPA and it is not a pretty or healthy situation.

Other than our motorhomes fuel needs we have found the switch to Electric vehicles to be a huge step forward...for us anyway. I know the electric vehicle is not the right answer for everybody depending on their needs and certainly doesn't make sense in all areas depending on how power is generated but it still surprises me that there is not a faster embrace of the technology by the commuter crowd. There is so much mis-information out there. The big trick is getting people to take a test drive. AFter that it is pretty simple. Even shopping malls and places like costco I think are missing the boat a bit in setting up charge stations. It'll come but I think it will be slow in coming on this side of the pond.

What do you mean by malls and Costco missing the boat on charging systems? Do you mean they should be setting them up? Who would pay for them?

The reason I ask is, I had an interesting conversation with someone who owns a Volt. Here in New Jersey, electricity is relatively expensive. So I asked him that, given the price of electricity and the higher price of the EV, did he feel he was saving money. His answer was that of course he's saving money, the state university he teaches at provides free charging for EVs. Hardly a fair comparison to gas, is it? I could save a lot too if my employer paid for my gas.

Good afternoon. What I mean is whoever has the charging stations will attract the EV drivers. Kinda like having covered parking. Those who have it are more likely to get those who want to park in the shade. Who pays for i?. The business of course. Not the power. Thats just tap and go with a credit card. Although some will make the argument that giving away 40 to 80 cents of power and getting the customer to shop at their location could make sense. Really though, I don't see why they would want to or have to give away power. A buck of power goes a long way in an electric vehicle.

Saving money?, probably. Honestly I would buy it just from the point of view of how it drives. All kinds of power and just a real nice driving car. We paid about 20 grand for our electric. Its a commuter vehicle and only has about 140KM of real world range but then again we never seem to go more than about 60 or 70 KM at a shot. And having said that, it would still be nice to "fuel up" while shopping. I suppose its not a big deal but I'm guessing that even as the range of these things gets longer and longer many of us would "hook up" if we were parked some where where they had a charge station. It will be interesting to see how things evolve as electrics become more mainstream on this side of the pond. Kinda interesting looking at stats from Europe. In August 26 per cent of all vehicle sales in Norway were full electric. That is expected to double within 3 years when 1 of every 2 vehicles sold will be electric. Nissan and Tesla are still king but surprisingly it is the VW E golf that sold the most in Norway. Gas retailers there may find themselves dropping their prices there just to try and entice people to buy a gas vehicle. Its a changing world. 🙂

[time2roll]

jfkmk wrote:
What do you mean by malls and Costco missing the boat on charging systems? Do you mean they should be setting them up? Who would pay for them?

The reason I ask is, I had an interesting conversation with someone who owns a Volt. Here in New Jersey, electricity is relatively expensive. So I asked him that, given the price of electricity and the higher price of the EV, did he feel he was saving money. His answer was that of course he's saving money, the state university he teaches at provides free charging for EVs. Hardly a fair comparison to gas, is it? I could save a lot too if my employer paid for my gas.

What exactly is your rate? Quick Google say 11 to 14 cents per kWh.
Gasoline would need to be about $1.25 or $1.50 per gallon to be equivalent. On top of that an EV gets about 100 mpge. So yes you save money. If your employer pays the cost is not huge like gasoline either. Random fluctuation is probably greater than the EV cost.

Malls and Costco can easily profit if the EV patron stops there instead of WalMart and lingers a bit longer to get an extra $1 of 'free' electric.

For what many employers pay to subsidize carpool vans or bus passes etc. the electricity is cheap.

[LindsayRichards]

Our town has two solar charging stations (adjacent) that after 2 years are awaiting their first customer. It was put in for free by a federal grant.

NJ source of electricity