BE AWARE and pass around. This guys are a scam. They have started a few days back so they have not being widely recognized as a scam if you google them. Believe me, they got me...Please, pass it on. Used & Seized Preferred Auto BrokersThey take your deposit, tell you is on the way, and it never arrives.UPDATE: BBB and FBI confirmed the business is a scam. They have been trying to stop them but can’t. Off-shore website, no physical location, no US presence.

What are they? What do they have to do with RVing?

They sell RVs. They have a really good setup. The business name from a dealer that no longer exists, so you believe they are legit. Of all the scans I have seen, one of the best ones.

So what happened? The site does look legitimate... Interesting what they supposedly sell: cars, boats, campers, construction equipment.

Tvov wrote:So what happened? The site does look legitimate... Interesting what they supposedly sell: cars, boats, campers, construction equipment.The site used a name of a business that was real, so if you search for it, the will show up as legal. They ask for the 20% down, which is standard for a lien holder to release a repo. Then they cut off all communication.My post was a warning. If you Google them, everything comes out not too bad. Now my post show up, so at least they will have some warning.

SCAM https://www.seized-pab.com/ https://www.used-sas.com/

map40
Explorer
Mar 02, 2019
Johnnybgood wrote:
Hmmm, knowing that your internet company is being used by a fraudulent person/persons/company and not doing anything about it. Wouldn’t this be aiding and abetting? Sounds like something an attorney would be able to get his teeth into.

A lawyer from Luxembourg going after a company they can’t trace. Not easy...
T18skyguy
Explorer
Mar 02, 2019
It was a wire transfer

It's too late now, but asking for a wire transfer is considered a big red flag for crime. If you do ebay, even craigslist, they tell you to never wire money. There is little to no recourse if you do.
Johnnybgood
Explorer
Mar 02, 2019
Hmmm, knowing that your internet company is being used by a fraudulent person/persons/company and not doing anything about it. Wouldn’t this be aiding and abetting? Sounds like something an attorney would be able to get his teeth into.
map40
Explorer
Feb 26, 2019
mich800 wrote:
map40 wrote:
2012Coleman wrote:
So I'm not sure why you would not pursue this - if you gave them a check, they cashed it. Not doing anything about it only enables them to do it again the the next guy who didn't see your post on RV.net.

There is no way to persue. It was a wire transfer. the receiving account forwarded the funds outside USA. Bank can't do anything. There is no physical location or person they can contact. The BBB told me they have contacted the server hosts explaining that this website was doing ilegal activities, but the company hosting the websites doesn't care because they get paid to do so. I am open to any suggestions you might have on how to persue this...

You can actually report that type of theft to the FBI. I have not looked into it in awhile but I seem to remember a procedure via their website. Search cyber crime or something similar.

You missed it, that was the first thing I did. It is called the IC3. Still, they can’t do anything...
mich800
Explorer
Feb 26, 2019
map40 wrote:
2012Coleman wrote:
So I'm not sure why you would not pursue this - if you gave them a check, they cashed it. Not doing anything about it only enables them to do it again the the next guy who didn't see your post on RV.net.

There is no way to persue. It was a wire transfer. the receiving account forwarded the funds outside USA. Bank can't do anything. There is no physical location or person they can contact. The BBB told me they have contacted the server hosts explaining that this website was doing ilegal activities, but the company hosting the websites doesn't care because they get paid to do so. I am open to any suggestions you might have on how to persue this...

You can actually report that type of theft to the FBI. I have not looked into it in awhile but I seem to remember a procedure via their website. Search cyber crime or something similar.
map40
Explorer
Feb 26, 2019
2012Coleman wrote:
So I'm not sure why you would not pursue this - if you gave them a check, they cashed it. Not doing anything about it only enables them to do it again the the next guy who didn't see your post on RV.net.

There is no way to persue. It was a wire transfer. the receiving account forwarded the funds outside USA. Bank can't do anything. There is no physical location or person they can contact. The BBB told me they have contacted the server hosts explaining that this website was doing ilegal activities, but the company hosting the websites doesn't care because they get paid to do so. I am open to any suggestions you might have on how to persue this...
2012Coleman
Explorer II
Feb 26, 2019
So I'm not sure why you would not pursue this - if you gave them a check, they cashed it. Not doing anything about it only enables them to do it again the the next guy who didn't see your post on RV.net.
map40
Explorer
Feb 25, 2019
wa8yxm wrote:
I have met many who have purchased an RV sight unsceen off the internet.. Now the ones I met got an RV all right.. but let's just say the unit was not exactly as advertised

"has a soft spot on the floor"
(Lay plank down before you walk on it least you fall through)
"Minor leak"
(AKA Niagra Falls)

Converters fried. Wiring torn out... NO _____ (Fill in the item)

NOT ONE was an RV I'd have purchased Ever.

I bought 3 before, not one problem. I actually enjoyed it. No sad story, no weird explanations why, just the facts. I did a lot of researched, had not one bit of a surprise.
Except for this las one... well, you live, you learn.
map40
Explorer
Feb 25, 2019
am1958 wrote:
map40 wrote:

They took the deposit and vanished. No more contact.

That tiny little gem would have been quite useful in your original post don't you think?

It would have, I agree. With all the coming and going I missed what I explained and what I didn’t. My bad.
wa8yxm
Explorer III
Feb 25, 2019
I have met many who have purchased an RV sight unsceen off the internet.. Now the ones I met got an RV all right.. but let's just say the unit was not exactly as advertised

"has a soft spot on the floor"
(Lay plank down before you walk on it least you fall through)
"Minor leak"
(AKA Niagra Falls)

Converters fried. Wiring torn out... NO _____ (Fill in the item)

NOT ONE was an RV I'd have purchased Ever.

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