Agree again...and again up to a point...
First...get out there and spend lots of time out there...as the setup is starting for the sale of lots and lots of our public lands, parks, etc
I no longer off road as much. Partially being 69 now, but years and years ago noticed a huge change....trash and messing up the landscape by these (yes, a broad brush...but there are so many fitting this description that it seems like all of them) and why I no longer pull anyone out of the jam they could have avoided. Used to, but after stopping by to see if can help a group who were yelling at each other....
Stuckee was yelling at the pullee...claiming he bent his bumper by pulling him out. Pullee tried to leave, but the stuckee's buddies blocked his move...
Left them to whatever solution they came to...
Since then, considered helping a couple times and both times exact result...told them okay, but they have to sign a waiver and I'll not use their nylon strap, but my choker chain and it has to be wrapped around their frame (they had no tow hooks on their fashion statement AWD CUV)...of course they refused and that did it...won't pull anyone out again
How does this apply to this thread?
Goes to the type of person I'm talking about, not whom spoon is talking about
Call them part of the Fashion Statement Crowd that has the ability to either pay for, or credit enough to charge one of these play setups.
Since they are more into the Fashion Statement, they do not weight the ratings/specifications high on their list...or ignore it altogether...many of them are providing advice on these forums...
Talked to many out there and tell them one of my metrics when hiking in the wilderness...THREE cans of SPAM and other provisions...when open the first can of SPAM...time to turn back, as either ate everything edible or they are hiding knowing I'm hungry...they think that is gross...or stupid...good...they won't go where I like to go...
PS...my TV's are a 1980 Silverado C10 (the HD version of it's era) and a 1996 K3500 with a 7.4L Suburban. Don't tow much with the C10 anymore as it is 37 years old and +500K miles. Just property mule. Can afford the new stuff...but why? Take care of my K3500 and it will tow for many more years vs the C10. Dad's grocery/butcher shop truck and gave it to me when he retired. Never took care of it and overloaded it often coming back from the produce market and slaughter house