Thor's expanding.

[goducks10]

Interesting article about how busy all the RV MFG's are and the issues of getting help. What will this do to quality control? I think we all know.
http://wsbt.com/news/local/thor-industries-building-plants-but-finding-workers-is-a-challenge

[colliehauler]

BennieH wrote:

WNYBob wrote:
They will come from the hills of Tennessee & Kentucky, like allways.

Unneeded Cheap Shot.
I have worked with these folks when I was in field service. Some of the most talented people I've met.

The problem starts at the very top where quality must be a primary concern. Stuff & attitudes run downhill.
I learned that in business you deliver 2 of 3 things, Price, Quality and service. You cannot have low price, great service and high quality.
Where I work, we deliver high quality and service. If you want low price, we aren't the people for you. Financially we are doing great and I will miss them when I retire this spring.
You get what you pay for.

Well said BennieH. You have to pick what is important to you.

As for the cheap shots and snide comments can't figure out why people deem it necessary to add to a adult conversation. I guess they don't have anything intelligent to say and want to be part of the conversation.

[BennieH]

WNYBob wrote:
They will come from the hills of Tennessee & Kentucky, like allways.

Unneeded Cheap Shot.
I have worked with these folks when I was in field service. Some of the most talented people I've met.

The problem starts at the very top where quality must be a primary concern. Stuff & attitudes run downhill.
I learned that in business you deliver 2 of 3 things, Price, Quality and service. You cannot have low price, great service and high quality.
Where I work, we deliver high quality and service. If you want low price, we aren't the people for you. Financially we are doing great and I will miss them when I retire this spring.
You get what you pay for.

[bucky]

Lwiddis, a lot of us got it. Good one.

[Tom_Barb]

Dennis12 wrote:
I own a 2015 Thor Vegas. I love the way it drives, along with the floor plan. It just seems to be one thing after another with issues because of NO PRIDE IN THE WORKMANSHIP. I have talked to other brand owners and it seems to be in all brands. If a company would try building with pride and quality workmanship there is no doubt that they would be able to raise the price to achieve that and would not be able to keep up with demand.

\Newmar.

[colliehauler]

fj12ryder wrote:

colliehauler wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

Tom/Barb wrote:
Bottom line here is simple, they are expanding because "Cheap sells"

This is a surprise? Walmart didn't get to be a huge business because they sell Rolex and Rolls Royce. As you say: "Cheap sells".

Whoever builds it the cheapest with the least amount of labor wins.

Well, that is going a bit too far the other way. Witness Yugo, Renault, Fiat, and a few others that don't come readily to mind. 🙂

Then why do companies move to Mexico to save on labor, why are parts outsourced to China. Prove me wrong. Vehicles have doubled in price the last ten years while entry level RV'S have remained relatively unchanged. Look at the plethora of high end RV'S that no longer exists.

How about KIA, Hyundai, they controlled their costs and became a player in the US market while GM did not and look what happened.

Look at Coachman, KZ and Jayco who were bought out by Thor and Forest River. This will give these companies the buying power to purchase of a large corporation reducing cost.

Another example is Sears Walmart and Amazon.com. Who do you think can sell the same item for the least amount of money? All three have warehouses but Sears has to pay high anchor mall store rent and labor. Walmart box store and labor. Amazon.com no retail space or labor to run it, just the warehouse.

Compare prices for the same item at O'Reilly Auto Zone and Rock auto.

All things being equal who ever can buy raw materials the cheapest with the least amount of labor usually increases the chance for success.

[colliehauler]

Lwiddis wrote:
Collie, almost every Walmart has a guy near the front door selling Rolex watches. Hard to miss him!

?:h Don't have a clue what your trying to say or how it relates to my comment.

[bikendan]

down home wrote:

WNYBob wrote:
They will come from the hills of Tennessee & Kentucky, like allways.

Bud! The Folks from Tn and Ky are quite a few rungs up on intelligence and able to learn, than the Folks I see from your neighborhood.
All we see from up there are carpetbaggers who come to take advantage and bring their politics.
Do you know your a ABCs yet.

Typical East Coast snobbery!

[DutchmenSport]

Delete. It ain't worth it!

[down_home]

The problem with quality control is from the top down.
Any High School kid can design and build one of these things with a bit of training.
For small wages and instructions to get it out the door as first priority we have what we see.
This continued attack on American Workers does not come from America's Workers.
It comes from elites with careless disregard of where they fling their arrows and from lack of knowledge.Still at ten dollars an hour and benefits Workers bend over to do what they are told. Like I said they are doing what they are told. In this day an age. A Worker trying to do the better job will be shown the door. they want speed and cheap build to maximize their profitabilty.
Their view is quality and warranty does not make them money.
Once they wring out all they can and the brand is declining they will sell it off.
They are Investors/Hedge Funds looking for shot to intermediate gain before selling,or bankrupting and liquidating, taaking that money and reinvesting in the next investment.
No commitment to quality and their reputation and repeat Customers, or their Employees.
This is the reason whole categories of goods and durable goods are no longer availabl eand our jobs and our economy is now China's

[jrobert01]

WNYBob wrote:
They will come from the hills of Tennessee & Kentucky,
like allways.

The only people that still know how to work.

[down_home]

WNYBob wrote:
They will come from the hills of Tennessee & Kentucky, like allways.

Bud! The Folks from Tn and Ky are quite a few rungs up on intelligence and able to learn, than the Folks I see from your neighborhood.
All we see from up there are carpetbaggers who come to take advantage and bring their politics.
Do you know your a ABCs yet.

[fj12ryder]

You have to look really close, but I think those are Rotex watches. Or their the ones made in Canada: Rotax watches. 🙂

[Lwiddis]

Collie, almost every Walmart has a guy near the front door selling Rolex watches. Hard to miss him!

[fj12ryder]

colliehauler wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

Tom/Barb wrote:
Bottom line here is simple, they are expanding because "Cheap sells"

This is a surprise? Walmart didn't get to be a huge business because they sell Rolex and Rolls Royce. As you say: "Cheap sells".

Whoever builds it the cheapest with the least amount of labor wins.

Well, that is going a bit too far the other way. Witness Yugo, Renault, Fiat, and a few others that don't come readily to mind. 🙂

[colliehauler]

fj12ryder wrote:

Tom/Barb wrote:
Bottom line here is simple, they are expanding because "Cheap sells"

This is a surprise? Walmart didn't get to be a huge business because they sell Rolex and Rolls Royce. As you say: "Cheap sells".

Whoever builds it the cheapest with the least amount of labor wins.