Tire Surprise

[KeithAS]

My 2010 Jayco 298RLS has about 7,000 miles on the road. When I first brought it home I changed all 5 tires, buying Maxxis ST 225/75 R15. Since June 2014, the TT has been parked in my back yard, here in Arizona (unused-illness). We are buying a new fiver and for the last few days I have been getting it ready for consignment.

Today, I removed the tire covers and discovered this:




This is the spare, never on the road and always covered. At least one on the ground is similar. So this is solely from heat and age (5 years), not sun. I have never seen a unused tire go this bad this quickly. At least I wasn't getting ready for a road trip.

[2012Coleman]

4X4Dodger wrote:

ol Bombero-JC wrote:

Lynnmor wrote:

4X4Dodger wrote:
Where are the Maxxis is perfect brigade beating their drums? They are curiously absent here.

The silence is deafening.

Well - turn on your hearing aid!..:W

Don't have (nor have I ever had) any Maxxis tires.

However, in opposition to 4x4 Dodger's obvious bias (no pun) and negativity..:R.. - -
Maxxis has an excellent reputation and owners experiences are overwhelmingly positive.

Soooo - unless the tire is over 3-4 years old - I would have a chat with a Maxxis rep.
Be good to have a chat no matter how old - even if only for the opinion.

Also -
1. YES sun will do bad things to a spare sitting in the sun - even if it's not *Arizona* sun.
Covered -in the sun- may imitate an oven, increasing the heat.

2. Not that it matters - but sure appears to be an overly aggressive tread pattern for a trailer tire...:h

~

I have absolutely no bias on these tires one way or the other. If I am biased in any way it is just that I prefer Fact over Myth or Anecdotal evidence.

I happen to think that Maxxis tires are probably as good as any other trailer tire, but certainly not greatly better. I would have no qualms about buying a set. And I find on this site that many of the Maxxis cheerleaders are also the Goodyear Bashers.

I noted their absence because if this post had been about a Goodyear tire they would have shown up en masse to point out what garbage they think Goodyears are.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE to support a contention that one brand of trailer tire is inherently better than the next. I am speaking here of the Name brands.

I dont think that attitude on my part constitutes neither a bias or negativity. What it actually shows is an open mind and a preference for facts.

Here ya go.... 😛

[OFDPOS]

Had tires put on the front of a MH I had , when I was walking out the tire guy said "we checked and put the rears at 65 and the spare to 65 too" I said thanks and went on my way.
The following morning when I went to the MH to check on things I noticed the rear tire cover bulged up ??? Removed the cover and the tire looked just like your first picture. I for some reason checked the pressure on it . 90lbs of air pressure ?? max was 80... I checked the other 6 tires NOT one tire had the same amount fronts were in the mid to high 60s and the rears were in the 70s . Being parked were the sun had not been heating the tires up...
I drove back to the tire shop , called out the manager and asked him to check the tire pressure on all 7 tires. After he looked at the date code on the spare being 5 years plus a few months his comment was it aged out.
After a little discussion I had a new spare put on and all the tires were set at a set pressure ! 60 frt and 65 Rs... The manager stepped up and took care of the situation...

[ugh]

Gene&Ginny wrote:
Seems like all the "discussion" has drifted away from the OP's sun baked tires.

:R

More like hijacked at tire point.

[Gene_Ginny]

Seems like all the "discussion" has drifted away from the OP's sun baked tires.

:R

[minnow]

An RV'er with ST 225/75 R15 tires is limited as to what is available. And several RV's that come with these sized tires do not have enough room either between the axles or space above the tires and the floor of the RV to go to 16" wheels. So ST tires are really the only option of many of these RV's.

[Bipeflier]

KeithAS wrote:
Tomorrow, I take delivery of a new fiver. It has 15" wheels and comes with Westlake tires (ST 225/75 R15). I'll risk the 12 mile drive home. I recently read a post somewhere in which someone mentioned that Goodyear's G614RTS tires have a warrantee that covers damage caused by tire failure. They advertise it as a LT tire "Designed specifically to handle the demand of trailer applications" I cannot find any warrantee information on Goodyear's website. I do not know where these are made, but they are expensive.....and would need 16" wheels.

Warranty is only for the first 4 years.


Goodyear RV Tire BrochureG614 RST®- The new tire coverage of this warranty ends when the treadwear indicators become visible or four (4)
years from the date of purchase, whichever occurs first. Without proof of purchase, date of manufacture will be used
to determine eligibility.

[KeithAS]

Tomorrow, I take delivery of a new fiver. It has 15" wheels and comes with Westlake tires (ST 225/75 R15). I'll risk the 12 mile drive home. I recently read a post somewhere in which someone mentioned that Goodyear's G614RTS tires have a warrantee that covers damage caused by tire failure. They advertise it as a LT tire "Designed specifically to handle the demand of trailer applications" I cannot find any warrantee information on Goodyear's website. I do not know where these are made, but they are expensive.....and would need 16" wheels.

[azdryheat]

I am one that threw away perfectly good tires not once but twice. My first 5er had Goodyear Marathons that I replaced with Michelin LT's before it ever left the dealer's lot. On my current Voltage, I immediately replaced the Westlake's with Michelin Ribs to the tune of $2100. So that's my opinion of cheap Chinese tires. On the subject of Maxxis (Thai made), they are, according to what I read in these forums, much more highly regarded tires than the Chinese junk. I'm surprised that everyone doesn't install good LT tires on their trailers. I've never had a tire issue with LT's. On non-5er trailers I've had several blowouts with Chinese tires - I don't trust them.

[wrgrs50s]

I've noticed that it's usually people that have never owned a Maxxis tire that feels they are not any better than any other tire, and visa versa, people with Maxxis who are really happy with them that make comments about other brands.

I think it's human nature that we all hope that what we buy ends up being a great tire and until we have a failure, we kinda resent any negativite comments towards a tire which we have invested our hard earned dollars in.

Regardless, it's kinda a ford verse chevy discussion when it comes to tires. I've been a member of numerous rv clubs so I have numerous friends with various tires. A small majority of those have the Maxxis and have had very good luck with them and are avid Maxxis fans. I have used Maxxis now for 10 yrs, and have had very good service with them, although I have had 2 that ended up with tread separation, but did not come apart. This last tire at 4yrs old was warrantied and I got a new tire for $39.00. The previous tire was over 5yrs old. I was happy with their 5yr warranty.

Other than that, I have only had experience with Towmax, which came with my newest 5r. They lasted about 200 miles before I experienced tread separation. I researched the Towmax tire through the Heartland owners forum and found numerous complaints of other owners experiencing severe damage to their rigs from towmax failures so I immediately went to my Maxxis dealer for tires that I had a good experience with.

I think if everyone would report strictly to what their experiences were instead of what their opinions are we could have a better understanding as to what tires work, and what tires dont. However it can be a little entertaining to read some of the comments made on this forum. You can almost feel the tension.

[JimK-NY]

I had a tire dealer tell me that an unused spare tire will deteriorate faster than tires that are kept in use. That was after I learned the lesson the hard way. I attempted to put a 4 year old spare into use and then noticed deep cracking and tire rot.

[4X4Dodger]

fla-gypsy wrote:

4X4Dodger wrote:

ol Bombero-JC wrote:

Lynnmor wrote:

4X4Dodger wrote:
Where are the Maxxis is perfect brigade beating their drums? They are curiously absent here.

The silence is deafening.

Well - turn on your hearing aid!..:W

Don't have (nor have I ever had) any Maxxis tires.

However, in opposition to 4x4 Dodger's obvious bias (no pun) and negativity..:R.. - -
Maxxis has an excellent reputation and owners experiences are overwhelmingly positive.

Soooo - unless the tire is over 3-4 years old - I would have a chat with a Maxxis rep.
Be good to have a chat no matter how old - even if only for the opinion.

Also -
1. YES sun will do bad things to a spare sitting in the sun - even if it's not *Arizona* sun.
Covered -in the sun- may imitate an oven, increasing the heat.

2. Not that it matters - but sure appears to be an overly aggressive tread pattern for a trailer tire...:h

~

I have absolutely no bias on these tires one way or the other. If I am biased in any way it is just that I prefer Fact over Myth or Anecdotal evidence.

I happen to think that Maxxis tires are probably as good as any other trailer tire, but certainly not greatly better. I would have no qualms about buying a set. And I find on this site that many of the Maxxis cheerleaders are also the Goodyear Bashers.

I noted their absence because if this post had been about a Goodyear tire they would have shown up en masse to point out what garbage they think Goodyears are.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE to support a contention that one brand of trailer tire is inherently better than the next. I am speaking here of the Name brands.

I dont think that attitude on my part constitutes neither a bias or negativity. What it actually shows is an open mind and a preference for facts.

Hardly, it's hard to run from what you've already posted.

OK..show me one post in any of my history of posts where I have said anything negative about Maxxis tires.

It's time to put up or...

What I think IS interesting is how some who are Maxxis cheerleaders spend so much time bashing other tire brands.

[Specularius]

For a tire to age gracefully, it must be exercised. The tire needs to flex and roll so that the internal oils move and conditions the material of the tire. That is why these tires degraded so badly. They never rolled for 5 years.

[KeithAS]

What was the age of the tires?

0410

[fla-gypsy]

4X4Dodger wrote:

ol Bombero-JC wrote:

Lynnmor wrote:

4X4Dodger wrote:
Where are the Maxxis is perfect brigade beating their drums? They are curiously absent here.

The silence is deafening.

Well - turn on your hearing aid!..:W

Don't have (nor have I ever had) any Maxxis tires.

However, in opposition to 4x4 Dodger's obvious bias (no pun) and negativity..:R.. - -
Maxxis has an excellent reputation and owners experiences are overwhelmingly positive.

Soooo - unless the tire is over 3-4 years old - I would have a chat with a Maxxis rep.
Be good to have a chat no matter how old - even if only for the opinion.

Also -
1. YES sun will do bad things to a spare sitting in the sun - even if it's not *Arizona* sun.
Covered -in the sun- may imitate an oven, increasing the heat.

2. Not that it matters - but sure appears to be an overly aggressive tread pattern for a trailer tire...:h

~

I have absolutely no bias on these tires one way or the other. If I am biased in any way it is just that I prefer Fact over Myth or Anecdotal evidence.

I happen to think that Maxxis tires are probably as good as any other trailer tire, but certainly not greatly better. I would have no qualms about buying a set. And I find on this site that many of the Maxxis cheerleaders are also the Goodyear Bashers.

I noted their absence because if this post had been about a Goodyear tire they would have shown up en masse to point out what garbage they think Goodyears are.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE to support a contention that one brand of trailer tire is inherently better than the next. I am speaking here of the Name brands.

I dont think that attitude on my part constitutes neither a bias or negativity. What it actually shows is an open mind and a preference for facts.

Hardly, it's hard to run from what you've already posted.