Turn fridge LP off at gas pump - another warning!
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Jul-30-2013 07:00 AM
This actually happened to me this past weekend in MD at a gas station. I was filling up the thirsty giant and watching the dollars tick away when a Harley pulled into the pump, the same pump as mine on the opposite side. He proceeded to fill up. I suddenly heard one of the loudest f bombs I've ever heard in my life. The gas pump did not auto-shutoff when the Harley was full. Gas shot out of the tank with an explosive force sending gas into the air, all over the Harley, the rider, the gas pump, the ground etc. It had covered an area of about 10~15 feet around. This guy was upset! I was still fueling but stopped the flow and went over to help. After I asked him if he had a match (kinda got smile out of him) he got some paper towels and proceeded to clean up. I finished fueling grabbed my multi-hundred dollar receipt and got into the RV.
I HAD LEFT THE FRIDGE ON AND COULD HERE IT BURNING!
If the Harley had pulled into the pump across from me instead of the opposite side, y'all would be reading about our dental records on the news.
I'm going to have a reminder plaque made up to put on my dash "Turn the @#$*&^%$ fridge off before fueling you idiot!"
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Aug-03-2013 08:08 AM
There would be no fast and hard science to calculate the fuel-air mixture in a situation like this and if any ignition source would have found it's way close to the pumps, there would have been a disaster. It's for reasons like the above that I don't bring a flame (operating RV fridge) into a gas station.
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Aug-03-2013 06:36 AM
Before that, I turned on the fridge when we left and turned it off when we returned. Of course the truck is diesel so not an issue anyway. The whole thing is pretty much a tempest in a teapot anyway.
Oh yeah, I never use auto-shutoff when fueling up the bike.
"Don't Panic"
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Aug-03-2013 06:21 AM
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Aug-03-2013 05:55 AM
mowermech wrote:
The fuel filler on my coach in on the rear, at the driver side.
The frig is on the curb side, in the center of the coach, 4 or 5 feet high.
If the fuel vapors are concentrated enough to have an ignitable mix that high and that far away from the nozzle, we are all dead anyway!
Have you ever seen the commutator on a cranking motor when it is energized? The brushes throw a "shower of sparks" that would be the envy of a Bendix/Scintilla Magneto engineer! That cranking motor (starter) is somewhat sealed, of course, but it is NOT vapor tight, and it is only 1 to 2 feet off the ground! Perhaps we should have second thoughts about starting the engine while sitting at the pumps?
I always drive front first into filling stations that way the fan on my alternator draws all the gas vapors thru the alternator and cools off the sparks so it won't explode. :R
The sooner I fall behind, the more time I have to catch up.
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Aug-02-2013 08:06 PM
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Aug-02-2013 07:46 PM
wny_pat wrote:
Having retired from hauling petroleum products, I can tell you all kinds of stupid things I have seen people do at gas station pumps that turned into horror stories. And if you search google images, you can see the results of some of those things. Stupid can't be cured!! Therefore I am extremely careful around gas stations!!! One never knows if stupid is going to be there, but the odds are in favor of them being there.
I worked as a gas jockey in my youth and it's a miracle we didn't blow the place up.
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Aug-02-2013 07:33 PM
DiskDoctr wrote:chracatoa wrote:Tachdriver wrote:chracatoa wrote:
Out of curiosity I decided to read my Jayco manual to look for this. Here is what I found:
"The propane cylinder(s) should be turned off when traveling. Most refrigerators will keep food cold or frozen for eight hours without running while you travel"
Time for Mythbusters!!
I wish they did that! And also tested Hensley/Propride vs others in emergency situations.
Mythbusters? As in "Adam and Jamie" ? Lol.
yes :B
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Aug-02-2013 06:52 PM
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Aug-02-2013 06:41 PM
chracatoa wrote:Tachdriver wrote:chracatoa wrote:
Out of curiosity I decided to read my Jayco manual to look for this. Here is what I found:
"The propane cylinder(s) should be turned off when traveling. Most refrigerators will keep food cold or frozen for eight hours without running while you travel"
Time for Mythbusters!!
I wish they did that! And also tested Hensley/Propride vs others in emergency situations.
Mythbusters? As in "Adam and Jamie" ? Lol.
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Aug-02-2013 12:02 PM
Tachdriver wrote:chracatoa wrote:
Out of curiosity I decided to read my Jayco manual to look for this. Here is what I found:
"The propane cylinder(s) should be turned off when traveling. Most refrigerators will keep food cold or frozen for eight hours without running while you travel"
Time for Mythbusters!!
I wish they did that! And also tested Hensley/Propride vs others in emergency situations.
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Aug-02-2013 11:41 AM
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Aug-02-2013 10:27 AM
BurbMan wrote:wilber1 wrote:
I just find it interesting that some people feel entitled to decide on their own what is safe at a gas pump without giving those gassing up beside them any choice in the matter.
It's called "common sense". Too bad not all of us have it. If my bike tank is only 5 gals, I don't put the nozzle on auto and leave it alone. If the fridge on my TT is 25' from the gas pump, it's far enough away that if an explosive quantity og gas vapors actually reached the flame at that distance away, the concentration by the pump would have already been ignited by something else.
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Aug-02-2013 09:50 AM
wilber1 wrote:
I just find it interesting that some people feel entitled to decide on their own what is safe at a gas pump without giving those gassing up beside them any choice in the matter.
It's called "common sense". Too bad not all of us have it. If my bike tank is only 5 gals, I don't put the nozzle on auto and leave it alone. If the fridge on my TT is 25' from the gas pump, it's far enough away that if an explosive quantity og gas vapors actually reached the flame at that distance away, the concentration by the pump would have already been ignited by something else.