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Upgrade to 5th wheel

Taxman2436
Explorer
Explorer
I have a 2019 Ford F-250 6.7l diesel. I’m looking at a Grand Design 320MKS but want to make sure my truck can haul it. According to the brochure the trailer is 10,721 UVW. According to Fords towing guide the truck will tow 14,800 lbs. I’m thinking that if it will I may need to beef up the rear suspension. Also, I’m not sure how “UVW” relates to the actual weight I will be towing. Also looking for hitch recommendations.
Thanks for any help provided.

Lenny
Taxman2436
Sturbridge, MA
2022 Ford F350 6.7L Diesel
2023 Grand Design Reflection 320 MKS
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2112
Explorer II
Explorer II
I calculate it this way:
6340-2840=3500lbs. This is your rear axle limit
3500-200=3300lbs. Subtract 200lbs for the hitch
12000 X 0.25=3000. Guesstimated pin weight if the 12,000lb trailer is loaded to the max

3300-3000=300. You have 300lb margin on your rear axle.
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Taxman2436
Explorer
Explorer
OK, so the rear GAWR is 6340 and the RAW is 2840. So, it appears the 12000 for the loaded trailer would be OK, but would I be pushing to the limit?
Taxman2436
Sturbridge, MA
2022 Ford F350 6.7L Diesel
2023 Grand Design Reflection 320 MKS

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
What is your trucks RAWR? What is your RAW ready to tow. The difference is what your pin weight can be. Multiply that number by 5 and that will get how heavy a loaded 5er can be. Reality is I would multiply by 4 as many 5er's have up to 25% pin weight.
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Lwiddis
Explorer II
Explorer II
Twenty percent of the max gross weight of that 5er is 2800 pounds of pin weight. TOO much for a 3/4 ton truck IMO when you add passengers and stuff in the truck.
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BB_TX
Nomad
Nomad
You need to look at your truck's payload capacity. And the unloaded pin weight plus about 20% -22% to get an approximate loaded pin weight. That pin weight vs your payload capacity is going to be your limiting factor.

Lwiddis
Explorer II
Explorer II
What’s your estimate of the loaded pin weight? With all your stuff and passengers in the truck are you within payload? “Beefing up” levels the truck but doesn’t increase payload.
Winnebago 2101DS TT & 2022 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71, WindyNation 300 watt solar-Lossigy 200 AH Lithium battery. Prefer boondocking, USFS, COE, BLM, NPS, TVA, state camps. Bicyclist. 14 yr. Army -11B40 then 11A - (MOS 1542 & 1560) IOBC & IOAC grad