Valve Stems

[lawnspecialties]

These do not look like metal valve stems to me. I just noticed it tonight. I was preparing to pump the pressures up on the G614s since the dealer only put 70-80 psi per wheel.

Am I correct or is this a type of metal stem I'm not used to. Or is this the reason the dealer did not pump the tires up to 110?

[lawnspecialties]

Goostoff wrote:

CavemanCharlie wrote:
:R No offense in any way meant to the original poster or, anyone who has posted since then.

I don't believe that the aluminum rim posted in the picture should be able or, allowed, to withstand 110psi

Steel !! Maybe this combination of issues are part of today's tire problems.

Sorry for interrupting.

Have a nice Day

This is a 3 axle 5th wheel. I'm sure the wheels are fine

The wheels have stamped on the back a maximum of 110 psi.

By the way. I just recently heard back from my dealer. They said they only charged me what the tire dealership charged them for the mounting of the tires. The fact that I emailed them beforehand about making sure the correct stems were on the wheels, did not get mentioned. Then he said they'd never use that tire dealer again. I don't care. It doesn't help me any and somebody has my $300 for a shoddy job.

Its all good. I'm totally happy with everything about the camper except this fiasco with the incorrect stems and the screwed up Equa-Flex. But we're good to go now and we have plenty of camping trips coming up this year including Ocean Lakes, possibly Willow Tree, some more of our favorite state parks, and the finale' at Fort Wilderness in mid-December.

[Goostoff]

CavemanCharlie wrote:
:R No offense in any way meant to the original poster or, anyone who has posted since then.

I don't believe that the aluminum rim posted in the picture should be able or, allowed, to withstand 110psi

Steel !! Maybe this combination of issues are part of today's tire problems.

Sorry for interrupting.

Have a nice Day

This is a 3 axle 5th wheel. I'm sure the wheels are fine

[ol_Bombero-JC]

lawnspecialties wrote:
Finally got some free time today and ran the Vengeance up to Snider Tire here in Raleigh. They're a heavy truck tire shop and some really good guys I've dealt with before with our city fire trucks.

Upon pulling into the bay, they were quite certain my stems were not the full 110 psi stems. At 90 psi, you could take your finger and push the stem sideways and it would start leaking. Looking at them closely, it seriously looked like they were about to bust through the wheel.

They are TR801HP stems. That's 100 psi rated. But as I said, 90 psi was giving them fits. The shop pulled all six wheels and installed new 150 psi stems. They look great and I love overkill when it comes to issues like this.

Then they only charged me $6.50/tire to install the new stems. That was the price of the stem. They wouldn't charge me the dismount and mount fee of $25/tire because they never had to dismount the tires to install the new stems. I told the guy I felt I was cheating them.

Headed to a state park this weekend for a little getaway with the wife. A tire problem is definitely not a big concern for me now. I have emailed my dealership and explained what all happened and how disappointed I am; especially since I was charged $50/tire to have the G614s mounted before buying the camper. That's $50/tire for improper valve stems, only 70-80 psi in each tire, and the Equa-Flex hangers screwed up when they put the wheels back on the camper. Fortunately, I have fixed all the dealer screw ups I know of. At least the camper itself has been awesome!

Compliments for returning with the update.

Good to hear your stem change-out worked out OK..:C - and...

may ten thousand Zika mosquitoes descend on your selling dealership and take up residence in the sales office...:(

~

[buc1980]

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[lawnspecialties]

Finally got some free time today and ran the Vengeance up to Snider Tire here in Raleigh. They're a heavy truck tire shop and some really good guys I've dealt with before with our city fire trucks.

Upon pulling into the bay, they were quite certain my stems were not the full 110 psi stems. At 90 psi, you could take your finger and push the stem sideways and it would start leaking. Looking at them closely, it seriously looked like they were about to bust through the wheel.

They are TR801HP stems. That's 100 psi rated. But as I said, 90 psi was giving them fits. The shop pulled all six wheels and installed new 150 psi stems. They look great and I love overkill when it comes to issues like this.

Then they only charged me $6.50/tire to install the new stems. That was the price of the stem. They wouldn't charge me the dismount and mount fee of $25/tire because they never had to dismount the tires to install the new stems. I told the guy I felt I was cheating them.

Headed to a state park this weekend for a little getaway with the wife. A tire problem is definitely not a big concern for me now. I have emailed my dealership and explained what all happened and how disappointed I am; especially since I was charged $50/tire to have the G614s mounted before buying the camper. That's $50/tire for improper valve stems, only 70-80 psi in each tire, and the Equa-Flex hangers screwed up when they put the wheels back on the camper. Fortunately, I have fixed all the dealer screw ups I know of. At least the camper itself has been awesome!

[down_home]

I can't remember all the info along the way but aluminum wheels are stronger, in design. The rim and hub are one piece centrifugal molded for heavy vehicles not bolted or welded together.
Someone here that has dealt with the issue, fill us in.
I've have had welded and chromed or painted wheels on on four wheel drive trucks used for hunting or heavy loads come apart. Improper welds or the joints just were not strong enough.

[TucsonJim]

CavemanCharlie wrote:
:R No offense in any way meant to the original poster or, anyone who has posted since then.

I don't believe that the aluminum rim posted in the picture should be able or, allowed, to withstand 110psi

I know, I know, it might be rated for that much ! I think this is part of the tire problems we seem to be having. Sure, the tires are cheap too but, all these modern aluminum rims flex and warp enough so that it puts different stress on the tires.

It is my personal belief ; that is no way proven by fact ; that part of the tire problems we have these day are related to shabby, poorly, designed rims.

Again, this is just my "feeling" that is no way backed up by facts.

We had a lot less tire problems in the old days. Were the tires built better ? Of course they were !! But, the rims were also built of Steel !! Maybe this combination of issues are part of today's tire problems.

Sorry for interrupting.

Have a nice Day

You are incorrect in your "feeling". My aluminum 16x6 rim which is similar to that pictured above is rated for 3200#, and 120psi.

[rhagfo]

72cougarxr7 wrote:
Plenty of 1 ton pickups and dump trucks and big rigs running up and down the roads as we speak on aluminum wheels with no issues. Many with much heavier loads than our modest RV's!

Neighbor who ran Log trucks used aluminum rims to save weight, always loaded to Max weight ran tires at about 90psi, and never had tire issues.

[72cougarxr7]

Plenty of 1 ton pickups and dump trucks and big rigs running up and down the roads as we speak on aluminum wheels with no issues. Many with much heavier loads than our modest RV's!

[CavemanCharlie]

:R No offense in any way meant to the original poster or, anyone who has posted since then.

I don't believe that the aluminum rim posted in the picture should be able or, allowed, to withstand 110psi

I know, I know, it might be rated for that much ! I think this is part of the tire problems we seem to be having. Sure, the tires are cheap too but, all these modern aluminum rims flex and warp enough so that it puts different stress on the tires.

It is my personal belief ; that is no way proven by fact ; that part of the tire problems we have these day are related to shabby, poorly, designed rims.

Again, this is just my "feeling" that is no way backed up by facts.

We had a lot less tire problems in the old days. Were the tires built better ? Of course they were !! But, the rims were also built of Steel !! Maybe this combination of issues are part of today's tire problems.

Sorry for interrupting.

Have a nice Day

[down_home]

We had the brass metal inside rubber "high Pressure" stems on our fifth wheel from factory.
Someone, at a truck stop in Ky stepped on them or somehow bent them. They all leaked. Had to replace them all.
We used metal all stainless short high pressure stems, with matching caps that bolt through the rim, designed, for aluminum wheels to replace them. Not much way to be bent or unbolted. Another thing valve cores will sometimes loosen and high pressure metal caps with rubber seals like on our motor home will contain the pressure. We discovered that in Shawnee, Oklahoma.

[rhagfo]

Well for my money this is the ONLY valve stem on my LT tires, and nothing less than this for "G" rated tires.

[TucsonJim]

The maximum rated pressure for a high pressure rubber valve stem (pictured) is 100psi. Your Goodyear G614 tires are rated for 110psi. If you ever plan on running with max pressure in the tire, you need metal clamp in valve stems that can handle approximately 200psi.

Do not put a TPMS on the type of valve stem that is currently installed on your wheel. Centrifical force can damage the valve stem.

[time2roll]

Some of these snap-in high pressure stems are 80 psi and some are 100 psi cold rated.
Do you know a part number or anything to identify them?

My no expert view looks like 100 psi cold rating.

http://www.blackjacktirerepair.com/vs-801hp