โAug-17-2016 02:05 PM
โAug-22-2016 08:11 PM
westernrvparkowner wrote:
How is what the OP proposes, illegally working in the US, any different than what the illegal alien picking fruit, or mowing grass is doing. They are both taking low paying, no benefits, manual labor positions away from deserving Americans. They are both in violation of laws that are commonly violated to the detriment of hard working Americans. I know I dream of the day I can shingle roofs in 100 degree heat and not have to compete with an illegal alien for the privilege.
Perhaps the difference is the average illegal alien is working to send money home to support his family that likely lives in extreme poverty, while the OP wants to extend his vacation. Personally, my preferences for tolerance of people breaking laws lean towards those who are trying desperately to improve their families lives and provide them with at least the basics we take for granted. But apparently you feel spending extra time on vacation is a nobler aspiration.
โAug-22-2016 08:07 PM
her&I wrote:Naio wrote:westernrvparkowner wrote:Naio wrote:
I don't think that work trades violate minimum wage laws, unless the work required is valued higher than what is received in trade.
And most places evade the issue by calling it volunteering. I would guess it is legal to accept foreigners as volunteers.
The employer would be required to report the value of what is received as income. Depending upon the situation, it would either be on a W-2 or a 1099.
Yes, of course, although that is not for the OP to worry about.
If reported the op could be ordered out of the U.S. and refused future entry.
โAug-22-2016 08:05 PM
rag-ftw wrote:
I am not going to hijack this thread by continuing this discussion with you. I will just remind you that life as you see it in Montana is not what many of the rest of us see in our states. Have a good day.
โAug-22-2016 07:56 PM
โAug-22-2016 07:05 PM
rag-ftw wrote:How is what the OP proposes, illegally working in the US, any different than what the illegal alien picking fruit, or mowing grass is doing. They are both taking low paying, no benefits, manual labor positions away from deserving Americans. They are both in violation of laws that are commonly violated to the detriment of hard working Americans. I know I dream of the day I can shingle roofs in 100 degree heat and not have to compete with an illegal alien for the privilege.Irover wrote:
I have no comment on the topic, but I say kudos to everyone as these posts did not get out of hand with negative remarks!! Really enjoyed reading them!
Although it does present a sad example of the state of our country today. Here's a family that just wants to see some of the US and is willing to actually WORK for that privilege and we collectively point out to them how they would be violating our laws.
On the other hand, we have thousands of illegals currently in the US who receive free food stamps, housing, health care, education to include college, and a supplement each month for each child they bear in the US and are even receiving voting privileges in some states!
I say if you want to see Texas you are welcome to stay at my place. That is the least I can do after all the hospitality I have been shown during my several trips through Canada!
โAug-22-2016 02:13 PM
rag-ftw wrote:Irover wrote:
I have no comment on the topic, but I say kudos to everyone as these posts did not get out of hand with negative remarks!! Really enjoyed reading them!
Although it does present a sad example of the state of our country today. Here's a family that just wants to see some of the US and is willing to actually WORK for that privilege and we collectively point out to them how they would be violating our laws.
On the other hand, we have thousands of illegals currently in the US who receive free food stamps, housing, health care, education to include college, and a supplement each month for each child they bear in the US and are even receiving voting privileges in some states!
โAug-22-2016 12:29 PM
Irover wrote:
I have no comment on the topic, but I say kudos to everyone as these posts did not get out of hand with negative remarks!! Really enjoyed reading them!
โAug-22-2016 08:55 AM
โAug-22-2016 06:42 AM
Naio wrote:westernrvparkowner wrote:Naio wrote:
I don't think that work trades violate minimum wage laws, unless the work required is valued higher than what is received in trade.
And most places evade the issue by calling it volunteering. I would guess it is legal to accept foreigners as volunteers.
The employer would be required to report the value of what is received as income. Depending upon the situation, it would either be on a W-2 or a 1099.
Yes, of course, although that is not for the OP to worry about.
โAug-18-2016 03:43 PM
stickdog wrote:
For the OP you may want to contact garyhaupt a Canadian member of the forum who has jumped the hurdles of volunteering legally in the US if I recall his posts from a few years back.
โAug-18-2016 01:08 PM
stickdog wrote:
For the OP you may want to contact garyhaupt a Canadian member of the forum who has jumped the hurdles of volunteering legally in the US if I recall his posts from a few years back.
I'm not familiar with BLM use requirements but I assume they apply to non-residents as well so for very few dollars one can camp in the beautiful southwest for minimal cost. May try it myself next winter.
โAug-18-2016 12:42 PM
โAug-18-2016 11:49 AM
โAug-18-2016 08:28 AM
SabreCanuck wrote:
Thank you all for the replies...
WesternRVParkOwner has brought up some very valid points in regards to the "foreign worker" situation which I kinda already knew. Which is why a lot of the workamper and other sites don't really fit for what I'm talking about.
But let's say me/you are friends and I am staying at your house. You are in the procedure of building a garage and I offer to assist. I don't want to be paid a nickle. Not one dime. But, I do kinda expect room and meals and probably a beer or two while helping you build your garage, etc. Is that still illegal? I completely understand I can't come to the U.S. to work but what defines "work"? Do I have to get paid to be considered 'work'?
What I'm looking at is something outside of the normal pay structure... Not volunteering for church's, not workamping for $$ but parking my bigazz RV in your driveway and doing some chores around the yard in return.
Being from Canada, we don't automatically revert to the 'what happens if / insurance ramifications / lawsuit" scenarios that most seem to jump to so quickly.. Or, maybe it's just THIS Canadian.
I guess what I need is a website to make friends on so I can just go visit them. ๐ Facebook here I come.......
โAug-18-2016 07:56 AM