Pets- unpopular viewpoint

DOTLDaddy wrote:

Jayco-noslide wrote:
....You should not allow your dog to go up to someone just assuming they will want to make over it unless invited. ...

Interestingly, I have always had an inverse problem. Sitting at our campsite or walking our dog(s), people approaching us without asking in order to see and/or pet our dog(s).

Some of your other points I agree with, some others I do not. C'est la vie. :)

dturm wrote:

streaminhope wrote:

Crowe wrote:
They have no reasoning skills, and that is why we are fully responsible for them.

Who, the kids or the dogs? :B

Here are your words. They equally apply to parenting children.

Yes indeed.

Children do have reasoning skills. They can reason that what they do is right or wrong on an emotional level and why it is right or wrong. Animals only know instinctively if they will be rewarded or punished. They do not know the *why* of that reward or punishment. If they knew the *why* then we wouldn't need animals on leashes, laws regarding safety concerning them, or animal and owner training.

You've got a really outdated concept of animal abilities regarding reasoning. Granted they are NOT human and don't reason in a human's frame of reference, but the do reason and problem solve. That does not make them human, but their abilities are far beyond what you are asserting.

Naio wrote:
My cat waits until all the dogs have gone in for the night before going out. In a campground with a lot of dogs and some late-night owners, he gets frustrated and impatient, being stuck in the van all day.

He suggests there should be a dog-free time in the midafternoon, just like there is a generator-free time at night, so cats can go out and stretch their legs. He tries to time it between dog walks, but that doesn't work if there are too many dogs.

Deb and Ed M wrote:
You're kind of preaching to the choir :-) We dog owners who read RV.net understand how many people regard "nuisance dogs" at campgrounds - heck, we do too. I'd like to think that we all strive to make sure our dogs don't impact your camping experience in the slightest.

Deb and Ed M wrote:

Jayco-noslide wrote:
Thanks to all for not jumping on my post with both feet. I am truly amazed that there is so much agreement. Perhaps there is hope that the movement toward dogs everywhere will level off and remain reasonable. But I do think we're going to have to speak up about it. I actually regretted the post until now thinking I was being to outspoken about it. I look forward to seeing your well behaved dog at the next campground/

You're kind of preaching to the choir :-) We dog owners who read RV.net understand how many people regard "nuisance dogs" at campgrounds - heck, we do too. I'd like to think that we all strive to make sure our dogs don't impact your camping experience in the slightest. The problem is (and I know this is hard to believe) - not everybody reads RV.net... *gasp!*

A funny story from my dog-friendly condo complex: someone had posted, quite indignantly, that "whoever was allowing their dog to poop on their porch, had better be good about picking up after their pet" - "or else". There was talk of DNA sampling (I guess that actually happens in places - there's a company that will test all residents' dogs for DNA, then screen poo to trace it back to the offender. Who knew??) So this went on for a while, until I pointed out that a loose dog willingly pooping on someone's porch is simply not "normal". Then, the latest pile of poo deposited on the porch contained fruit pits.....LOL! So now I guess a live-trapping service has been hired to deal with whatever critter likes to poo on the neighbor's porch :-) Of course, it's Florida - and our condo complex abuts a wild area on either side. I've witnessed armadillos/opossums/raccoons; other neighbors have seen coyotes. So I guess my point in all this is - if you see a pile of poo at a campground - it *might* not always be from someone's pet?