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Amp Rating

jodeb720
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Ok - I thought I understood electricity ratings (watts, volts, amps).

I know volts and undestand watts is a measure of work - but amps are a capacity.

So when a motor has a rating of 12volts and 12 amps are the amps consumped of amps over an hour (60 minutes)? or is that a constant draw of amps per minute?

If it were watts (it would be volts x amps = watts or in this case 144 watts) - but again, watts are a measure of work - not a capacity or a rating of wires.

This all goes back to me using a 12 volt winch with a 12 amp rating - so if i'm sizing a battery and I expect the motor to run for no more than 10 minutes then i'd use 2 amps if amps are measured per hour.

What am I missing?

Forgive my ignorance, but it's better to ask and understand it than spend money foolishly.

Thanks in advance

Josh
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mike-s
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Watts are not work, they're the rate work is done. Work is measured in joules, which are watt-seconds. But it's common to use watt-hours or kilowatt-hours instead.

One point of confusion is that people commonly say X uses so many amp-hours to refer to work/energy, but that's incomplete. Unstated is the voltage. It's used as a relative term.

Your 12 volt 12 amp motor, when running, uses 144 watts of power. If it runs for an hour, it uses 144 watt-hours of energy.

When working with batteries, it's common to just assume the voltage and only use amps and time. Then it's thought of as a 12 amp motor running for 1 hour using 12 amp-hours.

So, for your winch example - if the winch draws 12 amps for 10 minutes, it will consume 12 amps x 1/6 hour = 2 amp-hours.

MrWizard
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think of amps as rate of flow
like 1 quart per minute verus 1 gal per minute of water

12 amps is a current/flow rate being used, if that motor runs for 1 hr, you use 12 ampHrs at 12v or 144 watt hrs

water at 1 quart per minutes needs 4 minutes to fill a gallon bucket
while 1 gal a minute will fill the same bucket in 1 minute

10 minutes water run a 1qt per minute is 10qts aka 2.5 gallons of water

you have a 12amp motor, buy a 15amp switch or even a 20 amp switch
you want the switch contacts to have a higher rating than the max draw of the motor, so the contacts do NOT heat up and burn up or get pitted
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Old-Biscuit
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Amps: Amperes, commonly known as amps, measure the flow of electricity as an electric current. Specifically, it measures the amount of electrons that flow past a certain point per second.


PER SECOND


Amp Hour Rating..that is how batteries are rated
if a battery has a rating of 100AH @ 20 Hr rate, then that battery was discharged over 20 hours with a 5 amp load.



12V winch with a 12A rating will use 12 amps per second to run motor at rated speed.
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mrkoje
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I think you are confusing Amp Hour with Amp. Amp Hour is a metric used in storage for how many amps (flow) can be drawn from a battery bank over a course of time before discharged. Amp by it self is current (flow in the common analogy)


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Voltage is measured in volts, current is measured in amps and resistance is measured in ohms. A neat analogy to help understand these terms is a system of plumbing pipes. The voltage is equivalent to the water pressure, the current is equivalent to the flow rate, and the resistance is like the pipe size.
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