Another AGM conditioning question
This is my chassis battery, an agm I got used and have little experience with. Trickle charger failed in storage, it is dead as a doornail. Not covenient to babysit it for long hours on meanwell or...
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Many of my responses are cranky. Sometimes very trying to navigate in a world of pain -- it really shortens my patience. @#$%&! USA doctors are terrified of administering hyualaronic acid injections (proven miracle in my case) without a 13-step hassle of appointments with a "Pain Specialist" who is terrified because of DEA threats of absolutely unrelated opioid crisis strictness. Then I have to argue with the doctor the injected into the joints medication works. Frustration R Me, time. This is like criminalizing heroin and including vitamin C. Incompetence. And it carries over to battery advice and device promotion by con artists who can't find their *** with both hands and a mirror. This does not include consumers except if they play ventriloquist to con artist promoting.
I can only hope I am forgiven for my transgressions in my responses.
When I respond to many issues I wax inclusive and include comments that address a larger audience. Hopefully it will prove to be of some value to other than the OP. Minimum time spent, minimum effort expended, and the fewest fraction of a cent spent on a maximum of kWh lifespan is my goal.
Now that the caveats have been covered...
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The point of the problem of the Lifelines has been covered. If a decrease of capacity of an AGM is noted, do the Lifeline exercise regardless if the AGM is of a different brand. Their plate alloy is similar 1.300 specific gravity and the plate occlusion works exactly the same. Yes it is a hassle. Yes it is worth every minute of effort. All brands of AGM battery. Try recovery first then see what it did...
My years-long experiments with frequency modulated fracturing of latticed sulfation was an utter disappointment. You have to understand I did not pull up a chair and waste my time twiddling my thumbs. I had lifespan tests underway. I rebuilt alternators and dealt with vendor issues all in the same day. I would have gone broke had I not multi-tasked.
I am too stupid or too much a nerd to be a con artist. When I decoupled a jar lid from a case and then dissected plates to be studied under a 10x loupe examining the plate was an absolute not guesswork or hypothesis.
Nothing I tried worked ant better than application of straight DC wattage to the plate. I wish it did. I would have a suite on the WORLD retirement ship sailing around the world.
Two new totally sulfated batteries: One treated to an intensity of frequency modulation that is 1000x the intensity of any consumer product. The second DUT a clone subjected to PRECISELY the same kWh of DC overcharge.
Remove lid and plate modules. Extract plates. Compare. No difference.
From 10 Hz to megahertz no difference. But an ascending degree of physical damage to the grid and plate. Irreconcilable damage. Shedding of material the sulfated plates were legions more durable than the good areas of the plates.
When one interested potential investor showed impatience at witnessing DUT's "Maybe you're not using enough power" I cranked up the incoming voltage. Six cells erupted to a height of over one meter of electrolyte...
"Then again" I retorted "I am".
Prove to me. please using a laboratory verified quantity of energy that pulsation is superior to straight DC overcharging with regard to battery life or recovery. watt second to watt second equality of energy expenditure.
After my business closed and I was in the hospital I was a lonely voice in the wilderness. Barnum & Baily and the bearded lady appeared and the public fell to their knees in vulnerable delight. I was disgusted.
Now a REPUTABLE OEM has printed documents that suggest strongly the negative points of frequency pulsed charging. Lifeline. Read their manual. Read the cautions about the maximum tolerated millivolts Lifeline insists for their battery charging maintenance. Smart people.
Every transformer battery charger is a pulsed charger. Every high frequency charger is a pulsed charger. In my extremely limited capacity now, I add capacitors to low and high frequencies to dampen ripple.
So for the argumentative folks I offer this -- I do not get PAID to argue. If in a mood to froth, take it up with Lifeline.
I need to slather on some DMSO liquid onto my shoulders so I'll quit while I'm behind...
I can only hope I am forgiven for my transgressions in my responses.
When I respond to many issues I wax inclusive and include comments that address a larger audience. Hopefully it will prove to be of some value to other than the OP. Minimum time spent, minimum effort expended, and the fewest fraction of a cent spent on a maximum of kWh lifespan is my goal.
Now that the caveats have been covered...
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The point of the problem of the Lifelines has been covered. If a decrease of capacity of an AGM is noted, do the Lifeline exercise regardless if the AGM is of a different brand. Their plate alloy is similar 1.300 specific gravity and the plate occlusion works exactly the same. Yes it is a hassle. Yes it is worth every minute of effort. All brands of AGM battery. Try recovery first then see what it did...
My years-long experiments with frequency modulated fracturing of latticed sulfation was an utter disappointment. You have to understand I did not pull up a chair and waste my time twiddling my thumbs. I had lifespan tests underway. I rebuilt alternators and dealt with vendor issues all in the same day. I would have gone broke had I not multi-tasked.
I am too stupid or too much a nerd to be a con artist. When I decoupled a jar lid from a case and then dissected plates to be studied under a 10x loupe examining the plate was an absolute not guesswork or hypothesis.
Nothing I tried worked ant better than application of straight DC wattage to the plate. I wish it did. I would have a suite on the WORLD retirement ship sailing around the world.
Two new totally sulfated batteries: One treated to an intensity of frequency modulation that is 1000x the intensity of any consumer product. The second DUT a clone subjected to PRECISELY the same kWh of DC overcharge.
Remove lid and plate modules. Extract plates. Compare. No difference.
From 10 Hz to megahertz no difference. But an ascending degree of physical damage to the grid and plate. Irreconcilable damage. Shedding of material the sulfated plates were legions more durable than the good areas of the plates.
When one interested potential investor showed impatience at witnessing DUT's "Maybe you're not using enough power" I cranked up the incoming voltage. Six cells erupted to a height of over one meter of electrolyte...
"Then again" I retorted "I am".
Prove to me. please using a laboratory verified quantity of energy that pulsation is superior to straight DC overcharging with regard to battery life or recovery. watt second to watt second equality of energy expenditure.
After my business closed and I was in the hospital I was a lonely voice in the wilderness. Barnum & Baily and the bearded lady appeared and the public fell to their knees in vulnerable delight. I was disgusted.
Now a REPUTABLE OEM has printed documents that suggest strongly the negative points of frequency pulsed charging. Lifeline. Read their manual. Read the cautions about the maximum tolerated millivolts Lifeline insists for their battery charging maintenance. Smart people.
Every transformer battery charger is a pulsed charger. Every high frequency charger is a pulsed charger. In my extremely limited capacity now, I add capacitors to low and high frequencies to dampen ripple.
So for the argumentative folks I offer this -- I do not get PAID to argue. If in a mood to froth, take it up with Lifeline.
I need to slather on some DMSO liquid onto my shoulders so I'll quit while I'm behind...
