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samsontdog
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Mar 02, 2017

Follow up on the check engine light

After a week in the Ford Garage in Yuma, Automotive Garage in the Foothills, back and forth 4 times my 2003 Ford with the V10 eng with 105K is finally fixed I hope. Replaced one oxygen sensor first. The light stayed off until I got on the road. They replaced the other sensor. They said it is good to go. Nope, after name calling etc they replaced the computer and reset it by Ford Garage. So far so good. Staying off so far Cost me $1,100 big ones. I ordered a new P/Up today
  • Recognizing your mileage is too high, I wanted to post as to let others know that major emissions systems are covered under warranty by the EPA via the Clean Air Act for 8 years or 80K miles regardless of mfg warranty. Worse, the manufactures often don't know, or don't want the hassle and will try to get you to pay for the repairs.

    I had an Accord that had the check engine light many times to which I brought in, they would clear it and sent me on my way. I noticed it more frequently after the Honda warranty was up and since I was giving the car to my mom, I borrowed a friends computer to determine the code. The code indicated a possible bad catalytic converter. Brought it in without telling the dealer I saw the code, and magically they finally saw it as well. (It always is easy to find when out od warranty for some reason...) They first tried to charge me for sensors and a CC, and denied knowledge of warranty until I told them to do more research, telling them the law/warranty; even providing a link. They called back and still wanted me to pay for the sensors, but I argued that they had to be replaced once the CC was replaced per their very statement, so it should be included, not to mention that I had brought this in numerous times during warranty and their final response was, if it stays on more than a week, come back in. Ultimately it saved me $1700, and by not bringing up the warranty during their initial inspection, they made a mistake in telling me the sensors needed to be replaced per the CC. Some sensors/components are not included in the warranty if changed independently.

    Anyway, there are a lot of people who are not aware of this warranty/law, and the dealer still tries to stick them with the bill. You have to be vigilant and show them documentation. Seems odd as you would think they are aware of this. My guess is they are, but it must be a hassle and they clearly get more money from the consumer, than the government... Either way, even when people are aware of the warranty, many still have issues with the dealer trying to charge them for components written within the warranty...
  • This is EXACTLY the reason why I am going to keep dumping money into a 22 year old Dodge Spirit.
  • MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
    This is EXACTLY the reason why I am going to keep dumping money into a 22 year old Dodge Spirit.


    "Surprised" about the integrity of new or used car dealers? In California it took a law that threatens to jail them along with a near bankrupting fine to stop them from rolling speedometers back, replacing brake pedal pads and other assorted acts of less than perfect character.

    When I am forced to transit a new car dealership showroom to access the parts department a segment of music automatically starts up in my head when I see herringbone suits approach. A John Williams tune. DAH-DAH, DAH-DAH, DAH-DAH-DAH-DAH-DAH-DAH (followed by trombones).
  • It's posts like this that make me thank God that I am still able to take the hints for an OBD-II trouble code and "twist a wrench" for most repairs.

    My '98 4.6L E150 has had 2 EGO sensors replaced (WOW, do local stores gouge versus Rock Auto or Amazon !) and an EGR vacuum regulator over almost 20 years !

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