way2roll wrote:
Gdetrailer wrote:
way2roll wrote:
LouLawrence wrote:
That's nonsense. If it was true that not paying MSRP for something made them bad then ever car on the road would be bad as well. Manufacturers and dealers set a high MSRP as the consumer has come to expect a huge discount. The manufacturer and the dealer still make the expected profit when the unit is sold. The consumer simply "feels better" about his amazing negotiating powers!
Right. Competition in the marketplace is what fuels better quality and prices. When we start to see foreign RV's being imported that are better made and cost less US manufacturers will change it's process to compete. Until then it's going to be the status quo of paying for shiny gadgets.
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When pigs fly on their own and "man" has completely stopped "climate change".
Business is very complicated, just because there is "competition", does not necessarily mean lower cost, nor does it mean better quality or a combination of both.
Take a good hard look at automobiles, we have plenty of foreign brand names who have dipped their feet into the US market.. If you were correct, the domestic name brands would have 100% perfect builds and be affordable for all.
The truth is even the foreign brands build junk, they ship the junk to us and it is not priced any cheaper than the domestic brand names...
Wrong. In the 70's this is exactly what happened. The US auto industry was completely overtaken by foreign brands forcing US to step up in terms of quality, efficiency, longevity and price. The US auto industry would not be where it is today had that not happened. The rest is rhetoric and moot because it actually happened. You could also name a dozen other products where this occurred.
If someone creates a better and cheaper product people will buy it. It's only a matter of time.
Were they realy that much better, I say no, but let me explain my reasioning. in the early 70's epa or what ever they were clled then and the goverment made some big changes and mandated fuel milage requirments and also horsepower limits that afected registration rates, insurance and taxes (not sure if this was universal in both Canada and the US or in every state) so this put the North american industry into a state of flux and redesign, cars started getting smaller in size and engines, which also ment new engine designs. the invsion of the Forgine car maers was perfectly timed as which ford, cheve and dodge were having new design blues the normal quality toyotas, datsun, honda, ect showed up. these cars were not new and were on there 3, 4 or more generation of the same platform so the bugs were worked out, and it was only in the early 80's when the north american companies caught up and passed them.
To me it was to be expected and nothing to do with bad quality, but rather new product blues, like you see any time they bring out a new engine design or such.