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How much grease in the Ez lube?

FishHaggis
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Typical greasing of the EZLube requires how much grease? Half tube? Quarter tube? Pushed a quarter tube in and nothing coming out. Almost half a tube in another. Can't be that much grease needed? Pile of videos and diagrams out there but not how much grease would be typical.
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FishHaggis
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Just came back from a trip just over 7000 kliks and the hubs were as cool as cucumbers the whole trip.
2013 StarCraft Autumn Ridge 289BHS
2012 Ram 2500 Laramie Power Wagon, quad cab

Huntindog
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FishHaggis wrote:
Went back today with another tube of grease and all four are now done. Two full tubes of grease and a bit did all four hubs. Pulled a wheel and checked the drum. No issues. No gross grease coming out where the grease is supposed to come out either, just nice new grease so I think they had the bare minimum at the factory and that was it. Travelled about 6000 kliks with no grease? I always touch the hubs every time I stop as a habit and they were never hot.

The grease came out as was supposed to. I had bailed just too early as each hub needed just a bit more. Wheels are fine, brakes are fine.

Your hubs had more grease in them than others have reported.

When you pulled the one drum... Did you happen to look at the grease hole on the spindle for the inner bearing? There was a thread about this hole in the past having a sharp edge that could damage the seal when installing the drum. The poster chamfered this edge with a dremel.
I haven't looked at mine yet to see if this is still an issue.

If this edge still exists, the problem is that the seal can be nicked any time the drum is installed. So you can take it off, see that everything is fine, and then nick the seal putting it back on.

When I do my bearings, (not gonna use the easy lube feature) I will be looking at this closely, and chamfering this edge if it needs it.
Or perhaps installing the sleeves.
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ljr
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352 wrote:
Throw your EZ lubes away. One to many squirts will cost you a thousand dollars when the grease hits your pads or shoes. And the EZ lube does not pack the bearings, it just coats them.


X2 from hard excperience. I thought I was being really careful but not careful enough.
Larry

Charlie_D_
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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

SKF Speedi-Sleeve
SKF Speedi-Sleeve


Good point. As an added note the Speedi-Sleeve also serves as a permanent repair to worn shafts in the bearing area. I have used hundreds of then in an industrial/chemical industry.
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tragusa3
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Glad it went well.
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fj12ryder
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Another data point from an actual user. Always good to know.
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FishHaggis
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Went back today with another tube of grease and all four are now done. Two full tubes of grease and a bit did all four hubs. Pulled a wheel and checked the drum. No issues. No gross grease coming out where the grease is supposed to come out either, just nice new grease so I think they had the bare minimum at the factory and that was it. Travelled about 6000 kliks with no grease? I always touch the hubs every time I stop as a habit and they were never hot.

The grease came out as was supposed to. I had bailed just too early as each hub needed just a bit more. Wheels are fine, brakes are fine.
2013 StarCraft Autumn Ridge 289BHS
2012 Ram 2500 Laramie Power Wagon, quad cab

Lynnmor
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Mex, here is what Bearing Buddy offers/
Sleeve

MEXICOWANDERER
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Raher than beat the seal issue to death. The PRIOR installation of a seal-saver will afford a 4-10X extension of seal life. The wear surface isn't junkyard 1010 steel but granined stainless steel that retains lube. Anyone who has any experience with big rig bearings knows about STEMCO and its advantages.


SKF Speedi-Sleeve
SKF Speedi-Sleeve
This thin-walled sleeve (0,28 mm (0.011 in.), developed by SKF, is simply pushed in position over the worn area, providing a counterface surface that is optimized for radial shaft seals.
There is no shaft disassembly or machining involved and costly downtime is minimized. Since the same sized seal as the original can be used, there is no need to search for other seals, or keep a stock of different sizes.
No special equipment is required since the installation tool is supplied with the sleeve. A mallet and a pair of pliers are all that is needed for the installation.
Features
The new generation SKF Speedi-Sleeve uses a proprietary stainless steel material and manufacturing process, resulting in an optimized seal counterface surface that minimizes wear on both sleeve and sealing lip. The proprietary material provides increased strength and excellent ductility properties of the sleeve. Imperceptible lubricant pockets enable the lubricant to reside on the sleeve and thereby prevent dry running of the sealing lip that otherwise can create excessive wear. The contact surface is wear resistant and machined to minimize directionality (0ยฐ ยฑ0,05) with a finish of Ra 0,25 to 0,5 ยตm (10 to 20 ยตin.). This is, in fact, a better counterface surface than can often be achieved on a shaft.
SKF Speedi-Sleeve has a removable flange to simplify installation (fig 1). The flange can most often be left intact, but in applications where the flange will interfere with other system components, it should be removed so as not to cause friction heat and wear debris. The flange should also be removed in applications where it may reduce the supply of lubricant to the seal. This would reduce the cooling effect of the lubricant, resulting in elevated underlip temperatures and premature aging of the seal material.
fig 1
If the flange is to be removed, it should be cut from the outside diameter into the radius in one location prior to installation. The flange can then be twisted and raised up after installation and grasped with a pair of long-nosed pliers and twisted into a coil.
Size range
The standard size range covers sleeves for shaft diameters from 11,99 to 203,33 mm (0.472 to 8 in.). Depending on production quantities, non-standard sizes can be manufactured. Each sleeve is designed to fit a specific shaft diameter range, usually above and below the nominal shaft diameter. This permits some flexibility to accommodate variations in the actual shaft diameter.

Lynnmor
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Sure glad I pulled my hubs at 8 months, 5 of the 8 cheap Chinese bearings were on the verge of destruction. Yes, I have had folks on other forums say that the reason was my poor workmanship. Believe whatever you want, I know what I have and the folks that refuse to do much of any maintenance can proceed blindly. ๐Ÿ˜›

westend
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Huntindog wrote:
westend wrote:
Lets not get too far away from typical trailer bearings, here. Some of the members here are brilliant technicians or have years of mobile repair and other experience. Some don't like grease on their hands.

I'm sort of in the Lynnmor camp, the EZ Lube feature is not so much a system as it is a hole drilled and a zerk fitting. If it works well for someone, cool. If I had them, I'd be pulling the hubs.

About service intervals: For years, before 1970, trucks and cars all had a similar bearing set to those in RV trailers. Typical service intervals (using the fiber grease) would have been around 10,000 miles. Many of those bearings saw a harder life than an RV trailer.

Opposing tapered roller bearing/races were still pretty common til at least the mid 80s... The grease was a lot better than what was used pre 70 though...Typical service grew to repacking when the brakes were done with the better grease... at least 30K.

So yeah, their is no logical reason why TT bearings need to be done annually or at 12K.

At my age it all starts to be blurred on the time span of what was made and used
but I totally agree with your conclusion and info about grease. With today's synthetic greases and typical trailer loads, an annual repacking is not necessary.
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TomG2
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After reading all this conjecture, I asked the local U-Haul people for their advice. They are going to sealed bearings. No repacking, just replacement.

Huntindog
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westend wrote:
Lets not get too far away from typical trailer bearings, here. Some of the members here are brilliant technicians or have years of mobile repair and other experience. Some don't like grease on their hands.

I'm sort of in the Lynnmor camp, the EZ Lube feature is not so much a system as it is a hole drilled and a zerk fitting. If it works well for someone, cool. If I had them, I'd be pulling the hubs.

About service intervals: For years, before 1970, trucks and cars all had a similar bearing set to those in RV trailers. Typical service intervals (using the fiber grease) would have been around 10,000 miles. Many of those bearings saw a harder life than an RV trailer.


Opposing tapered roller bearing/races were still pretty common til at least the mid 80s... The grease was a lot better than what was used pre 70 though...Typical service grew to repacking when the brakes were done with the better grease... at least 30K.

So yeah, their is no logical reason why TT bearings need to be done annually or at 12K.
Huntindog
100% boondocking
2021 Grand Design Momentum 398M
2 bathrooms, no waiting
104 gal grey, 104 black,158 fresh
FullBodyPaint, 3,8Kaxles, DiscBrakes
17.5LRH commercial tires
1860watts solar,800 AH Battleborn batterys
2020 Silverado HighCountry CC DA 4X4 DRW

westend
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Lets not get too far away from typical trailer bearings, here. Some of the members here are brilliant technicians or have years of mobile repair and other experience. Some don't like grease on their hands.

I'm sort of in the Lynnmor camp, the EZ Lube feature is not so much a system as it is a hole drilled and a zerk fitting. If it works well for someone, cool. If I had them, I'd be pulling the hubs.

About service intervals: For years, before 1970, trucks and cars all had a similar bearing set to those in RV trailers. Typical service intervals (using the fiber grease) would have been around 10,000 miles. Many of those bearings saw a harder life than an RV trailer.
'03 F-250 4x4 CC
'71 Starcraft Wanderstar -- The Cowboy/Hilton