How much grease in the Ez lube?

[FishHaggis]

Typical greasing of the EZLube requires how much grease? Half tube? Quarter tube? Pushed a quarter tube in and nothing coming out. Almost half a tube in another. Can't be that much grease needed? Pile of videos and diagrams out there but not how much grease would be typical.

[fj12ryder]

Yeah, whatever.

[Huntindog]

fj12ryder wrote:
Go around that car or truck and take inventory of how many oil/grease seals there actually are, and then figure out how many of those you've had to replace on all the vehicles you've owned.

My guess would be very, very few overall. Which is my point.

Your guess would be dead wrong. I have a 73 Blazer that I bought in 1985. It now has over 305,000 miles on it. I have replaced most everything on it at least once. I've had other vehicles as well.
Had to do axle seals on my 2001 Silverado 1 ton DRW... That was a real pain.

All parts, even grease seals can fail. In fact they all will fail at some point. Nobody can say when it will happen. But happen,, it will. The bad thing about the Easy Lubes is that it is unseen until it is wayyy too late.

All the parts that you mention that you claim last forever... Call an auto parts store and see how hard it is to buy new ones... It will be really easy. Why is that? Because they SELL them! To people that have had FAILURES.

[TomG2]

We need a forum, just for those that like to complain about anything new that might improve our RVing experience. Not everything new is better, but some things are. From spinning the dry bearing with an air gun to sloppy dirty procedures, I am convinced that there might be a better way.

[fj12ryder]

Go around that car or truck and take inventory of how many oil/grease seals there actually are, and then figure out how many of those you've had to replace on all the vehicles you've owned.

My guess would be very, very few overall. Which is my point.

[Huntindog]

fj12ryder wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
The first big problem here is that there are only two kinds of grease seals. Those that leak, and those that will leak.
That's right. There has never been a grease seal made that won't fail at some point.

The next problem here is that WHEN a grease seal in the easy lube system fails..... It is unseen. It is most always discovered after the damage is done.

So for those of you that are giving good reports on using this system... I am happy for you now.
But at some point your seals WILL fail too. It could be next week, next year or the year after. For all you know, they may have failed now.:E

Okay, that's not the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, but it's pretty darned close.

What part is ridiculous?

The part about all seals failing at some point? Surely you don't believe that they will last forever.

The part about the grease getting on the brakes when they fail? That is pretty much indisputable unless you have disk brakes.

I've worked around machinery for 40 years that depended on grease and oil seals to keep lubricants where they belong. And as long as the seal isn't damaged, it actually will pretty much last forever. I've seen them last long enough for that rubber coated spring seal lip wear a groove in a 4 inch diameter steel shaft.

How do you think they keep oil, under pressure I might add, in engines? They use oil seals and those seals last hundreds of thousands of miles. When was the last time you pulled the engine of your car apart to replace the seals? Or pulled the wheel bearings off your car for failed grease seals? Or pulled the differential for leaking oil seals?

Grease seals and oil seals work the same way. So yeah, yours was a pretty ridiculous statement.

Ummmm. Replacing a engine rear main seal is pretty common. I have done a few on my own autos.. Iv'e done a few axle pinion seals and axle shaft seals too.
I've also seen quite a few wheel bearing seals that failed.

But I have built quite a few motors, transfer cases, trannys and differentials.... So I DO know what I am talking about.

But in most all of the cases I just listed, a failed seal is mostly an annoyance. The particular part just oozes or leaks fluid without causing any harm other than a spot on the driveway.... Not rear main with a stick shift though... That oil gets on the clutch.

Our TT wheel bearing grease will end up on the brakes.

[jake2250]

The EZ lube hubs are a great addition to my trailer, I pump in some fresh grease every couple of years or so. Annually I crawl under and look on the backing plates to see if any grease or grime is leaking out, so far it looks dry.I also manually run the brakes up to almost locking and see if i can spin the drum then I go another notch and lock em, if I was getting grease on my brake shoes they would still spin,, if the lock and hold,,they are dry,seal is good and EZ Lube hubs are doing exactly what they are designed to do!!
One other thing I do every other year or so is take a fuzzy little pipe cleaner and bend it in half, I then run that pipe cleaner along the castle nut washer all the way down to the bottom, I am looking for grease consistency,if the grease was breaking down the bent end of the pipe cleaner would be wetter than the middle, indicating that the grease is not holding together. (I do this test after the trailer has sat for a while to check for pooling).

My trailer is six years old to me,ten total and I have only repacked and checked brakes once in that time. Brakes were fine and bearings looked good!
Don't feel I need to do that annually as it would be a waste of time effort and funds!
Same thing with my fishing boat, I have bearing buddies that work perfectly, Just push in grease until the little red indicator shows and they are packed,, Been like that for seven years now, no brakes on that trailer so I really don't need to fuss with it,, every other couple if years I replace tires and give the wheel a spin,, if its quiet I leave it alone!!

[fj12ryder]

Huntindog wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
The first big problem here is that there are only two kinds of grease seals. Those that leak, and those that will leak.
That's right. There has never been a grease seal made that won't fail at some point.

The next problem here is that WHEN a grease seal in the easy lube system fails..... It is unseen. It is most always discovered after the damage is done.

So for those of you that are giving good reports on using this system... I am happy for you now.
But at some point your seals WILL fail too. It could be next week, next year or the year after. For all you know, they may have failed now.:E

Okay, that's not the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, but it's pretty darned close.

What part is ridiculous?

The part about all seals failing at some point? Surely you don't believe that they will last forever.

The part about the grease getting on the brakes when they fail? That is pretty much indisputable unless you have disk brakes.

I've worked around machinery for 40 years that depended on grease and oil seals to keep lubricants where they belong. And as long as the seal isn't damaged, it actually will pretty much last forever. I've seen them last long enough for that rubber coated spring seal lip wear a groove in a 4 inch diameter steel shaft.

How do you think they keep oil, under pressure I might add, in engines? They use oil seals and those seals last hundreds of thousands of miles. When was the last time you pulled the engine of your car apart to replace the seals? Or pulled the wheel bearings off your car for failed grease seals? Or pulled the differential for leaking oil seals?

Grease seals and oil seals work the same way. So yeah, yours was a pretty ridiculous statement.

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[Huntindog]

fj12ryder wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
The first big problem here is that there are only two kinds of grease seals. Those that leak, and those that will leak.
That's right. There has never been a grease seal made that won't fail at some point.

The next problem here is that WHEN a grease seal in the easy lube system fails..... It is unseen. It is most always discovered after the damage is done.

So for those of you that are giving good reports on using this system... I am happy for you now.
But at some point your seals WILL fail too. It could be next week, next year or the year after. For all you know, they may have failed now.:E

Okay, that's not the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, but it's pretty darned close.

What part is ridiculous?

The part about all seals failing at some point? Surely you don't believe that they will last forever.

The part about the grease getting on the brakes when they fail? That is pretty much indisputable unless you have disk brakes.

[TomG2]

Lynnmor wrote:

There is no company named EZ-Lube. That is just some term used by an axle supplier to capture the lazy people market.

EZ-Lube is just a hole in the spindle with a grease fitting stuck in the end. Some folks call it a "system", I call it nonsense.

Call us "lazy" if you want. Not sure what all the animosity is about. It is a feature that one can choose to use or not. The system might not be perfect, but few things are.

[Lynnmor]

TomG2 wrote:
Will someone please contact EZ-Lube and tell them to stop manufacturing these hubs?

There is no company named EZ-Lube. That is just some term used by an axle supplier to capture the lazy people market.

EZ-Lube is just a hole in the spindle with a grease fitting stuck in the end. Some folks call it a "system", I call it nonsense.

[TomG2]

My subdivision and campground do not allow vehicle repairs. I no longer like to mess with dangerous and toxic solvents and chemicals. The kid down at the repair shop doesn't know a wheel bearing from a flashlight. Lots of reasons to follow the EZ Lube instructions and keep things rolling as they should.

[fj12ryder]

"If the EZ Lub hubs worked as designed, it is not possible for them to be "overgreased."

That's very true...if it's done properly. Like almost anything you can screw it up if you don't do it correctly. If the guy greased the zerks 5 times in a year I can see him popping off the caps shooting in half dozen shots of grease and calling it good. Do that a few times and you pretty much guarantee that your brakes will be greased as well as the bearings.

If you pump in grease too quickly it could get past the seal and into the brake housing. Dexter says to rotate the tire while adding grease, not doing so could cause a buildup of grease in one spot and possibly causing it to seep past the seal.

[mkirsch]

fj12ryder wrote:
You're basing your opinion of the EZ Lube hubs on a used trailer that does appear to have been severely overgreased. My experience with my hubs is the polar opposite of yours, but then I know how mine have been treated from day one, you only know what the guy has told you about yours. If I had the same experience as you I may feel the same as you.

If the EZ Lub hubs worked as designed, it is not possible for them to be "overgreased."

You're supposed to pump until clean grease comes out, right? Pump more in, same amount's supposed to come out, right? Shouldn't make a bit of difference whether it's dirty old grease or clean new grease, so... How can you "overgrease?"

[aruba5er]

Cleaning your grease saturated brake shoe is a waste of time. Grease gets into the pores of the lining just as it does into your skin. You know how hard it is to get that out of your hands and arms, and clothes. Don't kid your self. Buy some new shoes.