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Jan 01, 2018

Interesting Do-It-Yourself LED Lamp Kit



https://www.ebay.com/itm/10W-Full-Color-white-Blue-High-Power-LED-Chip-12V-Driver-44mm-Lens-Heatsink-kit/331895770547?hash=item4d46878db3:m:mRTulXg5F1OWHnq_FKjjOdg

Selection of chip lighting colors, heatsink, lens, and driver. Ten watts is around FIVE TO TEN TIMES the amount of light of many small SMD RV lights.

And yes, having a driver means potential radiated electronic noise. A trade-off for consistent brightness.

I've used this company's chips. No failures and I appreciate the company is honest and don't lie about the need for a driver.

Check out the 365 nanometer UV chip. I need some to control mildew and light up scorpions.

Warm Light is incandescent bulb yellow and neutral light is pure white without the faintest trace of blue (this is my experience with these chips)

  • Lights in the tienda going strong after six years. They came with computer grade ball bearing fans.

    Like most things there is a wide range of quality. Cheap sleeve Panda fans are a long ways down down DOWN from EB Pabst fans. Like the Wal Mart rags I had versus the Michelins. A different world.
  • These are insides of projectors, or hid retrofits? Fan cooled LED doesn't spell long service life in my book.
  • I'm still looking for a compact-ish heatsink so I can put this LED in the carriage light on the front porch of my house



    It's a Lumileds gen 3 COB led, 27 watts if I do recall, somewhere around 3000 lumens, more than double the output of two 100 watt incandescent bulbs.

    It's designed to replace commercial HID down-lights, so all the heatsinks available are small in diameter but very tall, and designed to contain a fan for the higher wattage units.



    Here it is running on an Intel heatsink, designed for to forced-air cool a 35 watt CPU ... without it's fan, the heatsink is quickly overwhelmed.
  • That housing does not have near enough surface radiation area for a 10 watt chip. Three to 5 watts perhaps, but 10, no way.



    This heat sink will maintain a chip temperature of less than 140F if the ambient air temp is less then 100F

    This comes from actually using and measuring these parts, and not from guesswork or sales literature.

    The ten watt heatsink above is very large and is not suitable for use were appearances are important. I got a deal on this exact heatsink 8 years ago and purchased 60 of them at 20% of this price.

    I like sticking to spec sheet thermal and electrical limits. Like anything else LED chips can be ¨pushed¨ with overdriving current.

    The penalty is energy. Heat instead of light. And a vastly reduced lifespan.

    Stick your finger on an LED that´s been on for ten minutes. If your reaction is utterance of words that would peel the wallpaper, it is being driven too hard. Too much amperage. Wasted energy. Killing the chip. 120F is it, the top limit for my work. Driving the chip at manufacturer´s milliamp limit then sizing the heatsink to comply is the only way to design a lamp that is not garbage grade chew and spit. There are no magic high temperature LED chips.

    But like that customer of mine ¨Too bad about the batteries, I abuse them and replace them every year¨ it´s up to the individual. If they do not care then I do not care...

    When I test chips, it is with a precision lab grade power supply and a digital Infrared thermocouple. I can throttle voltage and amperage to a hundredth, then take readings. Scan heatsinks for hot spots.

    The hot Chinese setup, is to use a large wattage chip then throttle it back so the insufficient heatsink does not get overheated. Buy a hundred watt not equivalent but ACTUAL watts fixture and get 30 watts of performance. Disgusting.

    Much junk is sold that has zero heatsink paste between the chip and the radiator. Or silicone grease. Zinc oxide what´s that...
  • Between the house in CA and customers I installed about 200 of those lights.
    10W and cost less than 10 bucks. Couple of them failed over the years, but not a big deal.
    They come with flood or spot lenses and are submersible.
    I prefer cool white and most visitors approve.
    For about $26 you can buy multi-color version that comes with remote.
  • Scroll down and see the certifications. This company and Sharp are different colored horsee's...

    Most cheap chip companies do not offer anything.

    What's my definition of a good 10 watt chip?

    24/7/365 for 7 years.

    Those complaints are because NONE and I mean ZERO of these chips are rated for use at voltages higher than TEN VOLTS. Drive them at 12 volts or higher and watch with horror at the milliamps. They start off with 140% rated overcurrent then go to thermal runaway.

    It's nice to have my small assortment of test equipment. I can test and VERIFY that these TEN VOLT chips need larger heat sinks than what 90% of the so-called 10 watt chips call for. Another boo-boo? You bet your donkey it is...

    Adding a fan effectively TRIPLES the effective surface radiation area of the heat sink. Yet another Dick & Jane verified series of experiments.

    Rather than re-invent Frankenstein's laboratory for making up a series of hunt n peck trial and error, I chose to list chips from a company I know and with the 12 volt to 10 volt driver AND a fan cooled heat sink, I am ordering a bunch of these kits.

    I have yet to kind a standard "RV LED Lamp assy" that serves my purposes. They burn hotter than snot and no way are they going in or near my teak. The higher adapter voltage for my 24 volt system is a nice feature.

    All my higher wattage 30,50, and 100 watt chips are SHARP brand. There are 13 burning in a store from 4:30PM to midnight, since 2012. No failures.

    And my ultra high capacity 300 to 500 watt monsters (this figure is ACTUAL WATTS CONSUMED) have served well with nary a chip failure.

    Wish I could say the same about "recommended" COB lights. My opinion is they are garbage. I have about ninety of them and 100% have segments dark.
  • Those COB packs have a high rate of failure, pickup several extras if you're building something important.

    YouTube has many details on just how crappy those LEDs are.

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