New battery technology?

When are they going to offer stylish clothing made of woven solar cells .... so mobile phones get charged (via wireless induction - just like my toothbrush does in it's rack), at whatever speed, whenever they're in one's pocket? :h

We need to have this mobile device charging problem taken care of once and for all.

I can do that now, and for less.. I just slip the Otter Defender off the phone and slip it into the alternate case I have..... the one with the battery in it.

Nomorerack.com sells the battery/back protector by the way.. I keep it fully charged and change holders when I "Drop" the phone in a shirt pocket, sadly the battery back is NOT compatable with the Otter Box Defender.

A 12V charger works just fine, And besides I prefer to not be tied to a phone!

I liked the gizmos that were in translucent bottles under the hood. When the engine was running it sucked hookah style and bubbled the ion-rich pink mixture in the bottle before it entered the positive crankcase vacuum hose.

The cap bank power supply on my variable frequency amplifier utilized 33,000 FARAD's of 280 volt capacitors. You read it right. Thirty three thousand farads, not microfarads. Occupied three skid pallets. It took four days to charge those caps, and when I did it, Southern California Edison grinned. Who could resist such adult auction toys? The joules total approached the potential of a lightning strike. Apparently the Spirit project utilized it at one time or another for a radar power supply. Three phase 480 200 amperes. The power cost got so bad I purchased a CAT/KATO genset to power up the caps. A bit too fast, and whoops, there goes the neighborhood, and me.

And all of it was liquidated for salvage/scrap when I got sick.

My winning purchase bid? One Thousand Ninety Dollars. Excess Endeavor Discovery refit wire? Fifty cents per pound. Teflon, silver, gold plated. I purchased about four and a half tons of it, up to 350/MCM Teflon, gold plated.

Geez, those were the days.

The power required to charge a battery in so little time is enormous. Who cares if the battery can accept a charge that fast, how do you couple the phone to the charger to accomplish this feat? a typical "fast" charger supplies 0.56 ma per second to the phone (2 amp charger), charging the phone in about 75 minutes (2400 mah battery.) to charge that phone in only 30 seconds, you'd need a 288 amp charger to supply 80mA per second into the battery.

What they have is something in a test tube that can accept fraction of a ma charge in a fraction of a second without catching fire... so can they extrapolate that into a 30 second cell phone battery that is 1000s of times bigger - UH NO! The prototype that was demo'd is just a hoax, like the magnetic "free energy" machines that come up from time to time.

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Peptide super capacitor. Anytime lots of energy is involved kWs (Kilowatt Seconds) lots of potential gremlins dance across the stage like a lineup of the Rockettes.

I'm not saying this is unachievable, but there are going to be LOTS of limitations and caveats with the technology. Energy density is the big question. Stuff too much activity in too little space and the Boeing Dreamliner nightmare enters the equation.

BUT BUT BUT

The computer industry is THE master at handling lots of energy in tiny spaces, with millions upon millions of junctions and energy management.

I hope for the best. I wanna wrist TV so I can watch reruns of Sugarfoot, and 77 Sunset Strip.

Once you comprehend that a smart phone is really not a phone at all, but a micro micro computer with online access and cell site access, which just also happens to have a phone feature... and do the math on just how many million Samsung Galaxy's in various versions have been sold world wide... then you know they are for certain going after the master... the market is huge. The convenience would be off the chart.

I like supercap technology, but until the energy density gets to the density by volume of normal batteries, its best use is as a secondary battery bank. For example, wind energy in areas of the US where wind can vary from calm to breezy randomly. Having supercaps get charged via turbines, then the energy from the supercaps used to feed a proper MPPT charger is probably their best use right now.

Supercaps also help as a buffer between incoming solar and a MPPT charger. It means the charger can use what voltage/amperage it needs, and still keep charging batteries until the supercaps completely discharge.

As for charging a smartphone, I can see a dedicated external battery being a great device for RV-ers who are boondocking. Plug it into 120VAC (with permission, of course) at a gas station, let the supercap array get to capacity in 30-90 seconds, then let that external battery keep the smartphones and tablets topped off for a few days of no-hookup camping.

Peptide super capacitor. Anytime lots of energy is involved kWs (Kilowatt Seconds) lots of potential gremlins dance across the stage like a lineup of the Rockettes.

I'm not saying this is unachievable, but there are going to be LOTS of limitations and caveats with the technology. Energy density is the big question. Stuff too much activity in too little space and the Boeing Dreamliner nightmare enters the equation.

BUT BUT BUT

The computer industry is THE master at handling lots of energy in tiny spaces, with millions upon millions of junctions and energy management.

I hope for the best. I wanna wrist TV so I can watch reruns of Sugarfoot, and 77 Sunset Strip.