No brakes!

[cutty72]

Ok, so I finally was able to go get my new (to me) toyhauler.
It's a 2004 Jayco Talon ZX 36Z.

Hooked everything up, and I have turn signals and brake lights, I *think* the 12V constant is working as it seemed to charge the batteries during the drive.
The problem is that I have no trailer brakes and no tail/running lights. Any thoughts or ideas?

[cutty72]

Turns out it was a combination of TV and trailer wiring.
7 pin connection was shot, connections all corroded off.
Where they spliced in the 6 pin connector, it was corroding and when it got wet current was arcing across pins.
6 pin not wired with at 12V hot, so won't charge the batteries.
A couple bad grounds on the trailer
A few other loose wires randomly around the trailer.
Now, everything works and we're good to go!

[cutty72]

Well it's getting a through inspection on Wed by someone that knows a lot more about it than me. Hopefully he can get everything figured out. Will let you know what we find.

[cutty72]

RCMAN46 wrote:
Do yourself and everyone on the road a favor. Get a good brake controller such as the Prodigy P2 or P3. You have a time based unit which will not work very good with a large trailer such as yours.

Thanks for the advice, but what I have has worked for me grossing a lot more weight than this TH will.

[cutty72]

enblethen wrote:
No, they would be in the front area of the rig around the ambilical junction box.
You may need to follow them as they could be inside maybe in a cabinet or void.

Ok thanks, I'll look around for that when I get back out to the trailer.

[Bonefish]

My 2000 F250 required the purchase and install of two relays under the hood to get the breaks functional.

[RCMAN46]

Do yourself and everyone on the road a favor. Get a good brake controller such as the Prodigy P2 or P3. You have a time based unit which will not work very good with a large trailer such as yours.

[enblethen]

No, they would be in the front area of the rig around the ambilical junction box.
You may need to follow them as they could be inside maybe in a cabinet or void.

[cutty72]

enblethen wrote:
Some trailers have fuses for some functions adjacent to the junction box where the amibilcal cable changes to the rig's wiring.
You could have a bad splice at the same location.

Would that be near the main fuse/breaker panel?

[cutty72]

bikendan wrote:

cutty72 wrote:
Thanks for the replies, sorry, should have put this in the first post. The wiring is correct, verified on both TV and trailer harness. No fuses blown as everything works correctly on my dad's flatbed trailer (also 7 pin), so it has to be something on the trailer...

TV is a 2001 F250

what brake controller do you have?

It's a Redline TA 1200.

[enblethen]

Some trailers have fuses for some functions adjacent to the junction box where the amibilcal cable changes to the rig's wiring.
You could have a bad splice at the same location.

[bikendan]

cutty72 wrote:
Thanks for the replies, sorry, should have put this in the first post. The wiring is correct, verified on both TV and trailer harness. No fuses blown as everything works correctly on my dad's flatbed trailer (also 7 pin), so it has to be something on the trailer...

TV is a 2001 F250

what brake controller do you have?

[cutty72]

Thanks for the replies, sorry, should have put this in the first post. The wiring is correct, verified on both TV and trailer harness. No fuses blown as everything works correctly on my dad's flatbed trailer (also 7 pin), so it has to be something on the trailer...

TV is a 2001 F250

[Kit_Carson]

Possible bad ground. Check to make sure the ground is clean, tight.

[imadtchmn]

Here is a diagram for a 7 way plug for testing.

7 way plug diagram