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Whoops, I did it again.

Veebyes
Explorer II
Explorer II
I fried an almost new inverter. A not so cheap Samlex 1500W Pure Sine Wave inverter. Back fed 120VAC into it & BANG! What made me hit that switch when shore power was present? Did the same thing to my boat inverter about 20 years ago. Slow learner.

Where's my sign?

Not being a techy guy, obviously, is it worth getting repaired or should it be used as a boat anchor?
Boat: 32' 1996 Albin 32+2, single Cummins 315hp
40+ night per year overnighter

2007 Alpenlite 34RLR
2006 Chevy 3500 LT, CC,LB 6.6L Diesel

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3_tons
Explorer III
Explorer III
Your system is set-up improperly and is unsafe...A transfer switch is required.

2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
Not sure how you wire up an inverter to be able to back feed it with shore. Needless to say you need a transfer switch in there somewhere, manual or automatic.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

time2roll
Nomad
Nomad
Good to hear the new inverter was wired correctly. Idiot proof would eliminate unwanted circuits automatically.

Veebyes
Explorer II
Explorer II
Not surprised at answers. Fixable but at what price? It is not the price of the parts but the labour of the tech. Still have it & will remove cover to see if there is anything very obvious or to reset.

There is some life. It can be turned on but the overload light is on. No 120VAC though.

Bought a new one, 1000W pure SW, & wired it idiot proof. Needs to be plugged into the ATS & there are very specific instructions on circuits that need to be OFF at the breaker panel first. The only circuits left live are the two for the outlets. TVs & phone chargers don't need much.
Boat: 32' 1996 Albin 32+2, single Cummins 315hp
40+ night per year overnighter

2007 Alpenlite 34RLR
2006 Chevy 3500 LT, CC,LB 6.6L Diesel

Ham Radio: VP9KL, IRLP node 7995

frankwp
Explorer
Explorer
rlw999 wrote:
But the bigger question is, how did you backfeed it? If you don't have a transfer switch and you were able to feed 120VAC into the inverter, then it seems like you could also backfeed 120VAC from the inverter into the shorepower cable, which is a safety hazard for you and for the electrician that's working on restoring campground power and doesn't realize that you energized the "dead" circuit.


This! PLEASE, install a transfer switch or put in a receptacle fed by the inverter to accept the RV power plug. Carrying on with the current setup could leave someone injured or dead.
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YC_1
Nomad
Nomad
You need to install a simple either/or power switch so you cannot back feed the power. Should be very easy to do.

Remove it and open it up. Not much to lose. You might get lucky and find a fuse blown.
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theoldwizard1
Explorer
Explorer
rlw999 wrote:
If you heard a "bang" or pop, and/or smelled smoke, then it's probably toast and not worth trying to fix unless you or someone you know have enough skills to find out what blew. It's worth opening it though to see if there's some internal fuse or circuit breaker or something that tripped.

That is the problem !

I know enough about inverters to know that the most common failure is the output MOSFETs. At least 4 of them, maybe 12 or 16. $2 - $6 each. Maybe a diode, even cheaper. If the transformer(s) did not fry (unlikely), then the rest of the parts are relatively cheap.

If you don't want to spend the money on an inverter with an automatic transfer switch, wire the output of the inverter to an external outlet near your RV power cord. The power cord is now your non-automatic transfer switch ! Either shore power or power from the inverter but not both !

navigator2346
Explorer
Explorer
At 340 bucks for a new one, yours is a boat anchor

Flute_Man
Explorer
Explorer
My magnum inverter charger comes with a built-in transfer switch which prevents such a thing. I guess yours was not set up that way. Things happen.
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rlw999
Explorer
Explorer
If you heard a "bang" or pop, and/or smelled smoke, then it's probably toast and not worth trying to fix unless you or someone you know have enough skills to find out what blew. It's worth opening it though to see if there's some internal fuse or circuit breaker or something that tripped.

But the bigger question is, how did you backfeed it? If you don't have a transfer switch and you were able to feed 120VAC into the inverter, then it seems like you could also backfeed 120VAC from the inverter into the shorepower cable, which is a safety hazard for you and for the electrician that's working on restoring campground power and doesn't realize that you energized the "dead" circuit.

ndrorder
Explorer
Explorer
The manual didn't really address that situation. It won't hurt or cost to call tech support. It could have just tripped the gfci.
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