The first mileage test results are in. A quick review of what was done to the truck. Cometic head gaskets half the thickness of Fel-Pro and with full o-rings around each cylinder, not combining int...
did you ever think about just putting a different engine into it? I'm not asking this to stir anythign up, but the 5.4 wasn't that great of a engine to start with and with so many new offerings from both ford and gm that would be easy to swap in and would give you more power and better fuel economy. for example a junkyard LS 6L could be had with a trans for about 1500 up here so 1000ish down their and prople about another 500 in parts to install it, I bet you would be well over 15 mph. I know its a gm motor in a ford, I am just using it as an example and it is the cheepest way to go, the ford gas engines that would make a good swap are a little more money.
Swapping isn't an option on something that new, if you live in a state where emissions rules are enforced. The vehicle has to have all its original emissions equipment intact or they won't give you an inspection sticker, and the state suspends the vehicle's license.
No emissions testing in WA….as crazy that sounds. Not since Covid, lol. They all got sent home like the State did to all their employees, and the emissions testing never started back up. Another positive coming out of the pandemic I suppose. And his truck is 5 years away from being eligible for collector plates. Just because it’s newer than its owner doesn’t mean it’s newer! Hahaha
why would you want to swap a newer vehicle? half the stuff he did (headers and such) fall under the same rules so this obvioulsy isn't an issue. plus his truck is around 25 years old, so what are you calling a newer vehicle?
Near as I can tell nothing he did eliminated any emissions equipment. Headers and performance parts aren't illegal, as long as all the sensors and emissions equipment are still intact.
Being "around 25 years old" is not good enough. Here in NY it has to be a 1999 or older this year to be exempt from emissions testing. Once it hits that magic 25 year mark, he could swap anything in that he wanted.
good thing he isn't in NY and even if he was I believe his truck is a 1999, hence the around 25 years old which would date it to 1999. in cali I believe my buddy told me just switching to headers is a fail unless your car is old enough to be exempt. Its a good thing I am in Canada and I can delete my diesel with out anyone whining about it. I took my milage from 13.6 L/100km to 10.8L/100km (empty) with just the emission on tunes, with the truck camper I went from 18L/100km to 14.9L/100km, and pulling the 5th wheel I went from 22L/100km to 19.7L/100km.
I have the delet kits sitting in the garage waiting for the winter to put them on so I can't wait to see how much more fuel efficiency I can unlock.
That's true, yet I understand there are ways around it. I think folks have used the VIN of the doner vehicle and assumed that title with the transplant vehicle. Somebody might have the answer.
Doing an engine swap. I understand if you are swapping with a modern engine, the new engine is swappable with it's system of control since both engines would have EPA ratings. I understand my truck does not have an EPA MPG rating or much of the emission control garbage. My stock exhaust has no EGR connection and my Intake Manifold doesn't have a connection. The place for the connection is there but it was never machined. I believe my truck originated in Wyoming and may have been a police, forest service or other government vehicle due to the remnants of several radio antennae basses on the roof and places on the floor and dash where equipment like radios etcetera were mounted. The engine had a leaky head gasket from the get go and the prior owner knew it, cancer got him. I eventually figured the problem was a factory machining flaw leaving a gouge in the #1 front right cylinder between the cylinder and the water jacket. I finally figured it out on the third head gasket change. I had no more problems with the head gaskets on that engine. It died from a cracked oil sump pickup tube.
This engine was fine till it overheated and it just kept getting worse and worse. I got home from our road trip and now the rest is history. I've got more drive time on the engine and it is a considerable improvement from before. The real test will come soon when we load the TC and go for a trip around the state.
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A quick review of what was done to the truck. Cometic head gaskets half the thickness of Fel-Pro and with full o-rings around each cylinder, not combining int...","body@stringLength":"2553","rawBody":"
The first mileage test results are in.
A quick review of what was done to the truck.
Cometic head gaskets half the thickness of Fel-Pro and with full o-rings around each cylinder, not combining into one ring between cylinders like Fel-Pro. This raised all compressions from 185 to 200, to 200 to 220. ARP head studs at true 90 pounds torque instead of garbage unreliable twist to yield factory head bolts. New Melling timing chains, tensioners, chain guides and Melling 176 HV high volume oil pump with lower pressure spring installed. Porting out the exhaust ports to gasket match the new headers. A pair of Gibson 1-1/2\" ss tube headers. SPD Performance Y-Pipe modification to exhaust creating better flow and scavaging. The MMR Racing coolant adaptors to the backs of the heads and plumbing them into the coolant return tube to the water pump for better cooling. Fabricating a larger 3-1/2\" cold air inlet. Removing the comb like teeth in the throttlebody intake gasket improving intake air flow again. Welding shut the unused rear of head intake manifold coolant passages to prevent leaking due to the cheap plastic stock intake manifold. Modifying the intake manifold crossover tube connections to improve sealing and reduce the chance of the common leakage problem from happening again. Using the crossover clamp device I thought up to further increase the likelihood of a permanent seal. The injectors are 1 year old and all NGK ignition coils are 8 months. Several sensors were also replaced, MAF, O2 L & O2 R, TPS. All sensors about 6 months ago.
Ok, so what are the mileage test results?
After 140 miles of mixed city, arterial, freeway driving, the resulting MPG is 11.75
11.75 MPG may or may not impress people but, it is a 2000 F-250 super cab 4x4 with a 5.4 liter 2 valve engine and 4 speed automatic. Before, we were getting 8 or 9 mpg, \"10 on a really good day without the TC on\".
This represents an improvement of 3 to even 4 mpg. That will add up to decent savings over time. I just need to stay on top of maintenance to keep it this way. Regular oil changes at 3000 miles or less are very important, especially if you drive a truck with the 3 valve engine.
Everything I did to the engine, is on video and was posted to this forum if you're interested.
Thats the end of the truck repair/improvement video series. I hope those who saw it, enjoyed it. And now you know the fruition, end result.
It's back to camping soon.
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Swapping isn't an option on something that new, if you live in a state where emissions rules are enforced. The vehicle has to have all its original emissions equipment intact or they won't give you an inspection sticker, and the state suspends the vehicle's license.
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Swapping isn't an option on something that new, if you live in a state where emissions rules are enforced. The vehicle has to have all its original emissions equipment intact or they won't give you an inspection sticker, and the state suspends the vehicle's license.
did you ever think about just putting a different engine into it? I'm not asking this to stir anythign up, but the 5.4 wasn't that great of a engine to start with and with so many new offerings from both ford and gm that would be easy to swap in and would give you more power and better fuel economy. for example a junkyard LS 6L could be had with a trans for about 1500 up here so 1000ish down their and prople about another 500 in parts to install it, I bet you would be well over 15 mph. I know its a gm motor in a ford, I am just using it as an example and it is the cheepest way to go, the ford gas engines that would make a good swap are a little more money.
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did you ever think about just putting a different engine into it? I'm not asking this to stir anythign up, but the 5.4 wasn't that great of a engine to start with and with so many new offerings from both ford and gm that would be easy to swap in and would give you more power and better fuel economy. for example a junkyard LS 6L could be had with a trans for about 1500 up here so 1000ish down their and prople about another 500 in parts to install it, I bet you would be well over 15 mph. I know its a gm motor in a ford, I am just using it as an example and it is the cheepest way to go, the ford gas engines that would make a good swap are a little more money.
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No emissions testing in WA….as crazy that sounds. Not since Covid, lol. They all got sent home like the State did to all their employees, and the emissions testing never started back up. Another positive coming out of the pandemic I suppose. And his truck is 5 years away from being eligible for collector plates. Just because it’s newer than its owner doesn’t mean it’s newer! Hahaha
No emissions testing in WA….as crazy that sounds. Not since Covid, lol. They all got sent home like the State did to all their employees, and the emissions testing never started back up. Another positive coming out of the pandemic I suppose. And his truck is 5 years away from being eligible for collector plates. Just because it’s newer than its owner doesn’t mean it’s newer! Hahaha
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why would you want to swap a newer vehicle? half the stuff he did (headers and such) fall under the same rules so this obvioulsy isn't an issue. plus his truck is around 25 years old, so what are you calling a newer vehicle?
why would you want to swap a newer vehicle? half the stuff he did (headers and such) fall under the same rules so this obvioulsy isn't an issue. plus his truck is around 25 years old, so what are you calling a newer vehicle?
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Near as I can tell nothing he did eliminated any emissions equipment. Headers and performance parts aren't illegal, as long as all the sensors and emissions equipment are still intact.
Being \"around 25 years old\" is not good enough. Here in NY it has to be a 1999 or older this year to be exempt from emissions testing. Once it hits that magic 25 year mark, he could swap anything in that he wanted.
Near as I can tell nothing he did eliminated any emissions equipment. Headers and performance parts aren't illegal, as long as all the sensors and emissions equipment are still intact.
Being \"around 25 years old\" is not good enough. Here in NY it has to be a 1999 or older this year to be exempt from emissions testing. Once it hits that magic 25 year mark, he could swap anything in that he wanted.
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good thing he isn't in NY and even if he was I believe his truck is a 1999, hence the around 25 years old which would date it to 1999. in cali I believe my buddy told me just switching to headers is a fail unless your car is old enough to be exempt. Its a good thing I am in Canada and I can delete my diesel with out anyone whining about it. I took my milage from 13.6 L/100km to 10.8L/100km (empty) with just the emission on tunes, with the truck camper I went from 18L/100km to 14.9L/100km, and pulling the 5th wheel I went from 22L/100km to 19.7L/100km.
I have the delet kits sitting in the garage waiting for the winter to put them on so I can't wait to see how much more fuel efficiency I can unlock.
good thing he isn't in NY and even if he was I believe his truck is a 1999, hence the around 25 years old which would date it to 1999. in cali I believe my buddy told me just switching to headers is a fail unless your car is old enough to be exempt. Its a good thing I am in Canada and I can delete my diesel with out anyone whining about it. I took my milage from 13.6 L/100km to 10.8L/100km (empty) with just the emission on tunes, with the truck camper I went from 18L/100km to 14.9L/100km, and pulling the 5th wheel I went from 22L/100km to 19.7L/100km.
I have the delet kits sitting in the garage waiting for the winter to put them on so I can't wait to see how much more fuel efficiency I can unlock.
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That's true, yet I understand there are ways around it. I think folks have used the VIN of the doner vehicle and assumed that title with the transplant vehicle. Somebody might have the answer.
That's true, yet I understand there are ways around it. I think folks have used the VIN of the doner vehicle and assumed that title with the transplant vehicle. Somebody might have the answer.
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Doing an engine swap. I understand if you are swapping with a modern engine, the new engine is swappable with it's system of control since both engines would have EPA ratings. I understand my truck does not have an EPA MPG rating or much of the emission control garbage. My stock exhaust has no EGR connection and my Intake Manifold doesn't have a connection. The place for the connection is there but it was never machined. I believe my truck originated in Wyoming and may have been a police, forest service or other government vehicle due to the remnants of several radio antennae basses on the roof and places on the floor and dash where equipment like radios etcetera were mounted. The engine had a leaky head gasket from the get go and the prior owner knew it, cancer got him. I eventually figured the problem was a factory machining flaw leaving a gouge in the #1 front right cylinder between the cylinder and the water jacket. I finally figured it out on the third head gasket change. I had no more problems with the head gaskets on that engine. It died from a cracked oil sump pickup tube.
This engine was fine till it overheated and it just kept getting worse and worse. I got home from our road trip and now the rest is history. I've got more drive time on the engine and it is a considerable improvement from before. The real test will come soon when we load the TC and go for a trip around the state.
Doing an engine swap. I understand if you are swapping with a modern engine, the new engine is swappable with it's system of control since both engines would have EPA ratings. I understand my truck does not have an EPA MPG rating or much of the emission control garbage. My stock exhaust has no EGR connection and my Intake Manifold doesn't have a connection. The place for the connection is there but it was never machined. I believe my truck originated in Wyoming and may have been a police, forest service or other government vehicle due to the remnants of several radio antennae basses on the roof and places on the floor and dash where equipment like radios etcetera were mounted. The engine had a leaky head gasket from the get go and the prior owner knew it, cancer got him. I eventually figured the problem was a factory machining flaw leaving a gouge in the #1 front right cylinder between the cylinder and the water jacket. I finally figured it out on the third head gasket change. I had no more problems with the head gaskets on that engine. It died from a cracked oil sump pickup tube.
This engine was fine till it overheated and it just kept getting worse and worse. I got home from our road trip and now the rest is history. I've got more drive time on the engine and it is a considerable improvement from before. The real test will come soon when we load the TC and go for a trip around the state.