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Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

8_1_Van
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NJRVer
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
Saw an "S" up close a few weeks ago and an "X" up close today.

All I can say is that other manufacturers could learn a thing or two on fitting body panels from Tesla.
Flawless.


Ha, ha, ha, you're kidding right?

Flawless I tell you; flawless....LOL

Flawless Tesla doors!

Quality #1.


You fan bois crack me up!



Body panels had excellent lines. All flat with each other. Gaps even all the way around.
Better than any of the dozen vehicles I have owned so far since 1975.


You need to stop buying 90's Kia's.

40% of Tesla parts are junk.

LOL you fan boi's crack me up! My 5.7 diesel runs great! LMAO



GM, Toyota, Mopar.

Turtle_n_Peeps
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Explorer
Tesla may be halting semi truck program.

Tesla getting it's pants sued off.


Tesla getting sued by it's workers

Tesla customers suing Tesla.

Everybody suing Tesla.

Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock...โ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.:B
~ Too many freaks & not enough circuses ~


"Life is not tried ~ it is merely survived ~ if you're standing
outside the fire"

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."- Abraham Lincoln

Turtle_n_Peeps
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NJRVer wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
Saw an "S" up close a few weeks ago and an "X" up close today.

All I can say is that other manufacturers could learn a thing or two on fitting body panels from Tesla.
Flawless.


Ha, ha, ha, you're kidding right?

Flawless I tell you; flawless....LOL

Flawless Tesla doors!

Quality #1.


You fan bois crack me up!



Body panels had excellent lines. All flat with each other. Gaps even all the way around.
Better than any of the dozen vehicles I have owned so far since 1975.


You need to stop buying 90's Kia's.

40% of Tesla parts are junk.

LOL you fan boi's crack me up! My 5.7 diesel runs great! LMAO
~ Too many freaks & not enough circuses ~


"Life is not tried ~ it is merely survived ~ if you're standing
outside the fire"

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."- Abraham Lincoln

NJRVer
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Explorer
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
Saw an "S" up close a few weeks ago and an "X" up close today.

All I can say is that other manufacturers could learn a thing or two on fitting body panels from Tesla.
Flawless.


Ha, ha, ha, you're kidding right?

Flawless I tell you; flawless....LOL

Flawless Tesla doors!

Quality #1.


You fan bois crack me up!



Body panels had excellent lines. All flat with each other. Gaps even all the way around.
Better than any of the dozen vehicles I have owned so far since 1975.

BenK
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Explorer
Depends which source is quoted...

".....The cuts are almost entirely made from salaried employees...."...note '

almost entirely

'...

http://fortune.com/2018/06/12/tesla-layoffs-workers/

But...bottom line...Musk is facing a huge management issue that is mainly of his making

Like finally announcing flattening his organization...hello Musk...that is MBA 101 management metric that most MBA's forget about...

Or his comment of the cloud based upgrade to Model 3 braking to become the best in class...well...why didn't you do that in the first place?...or did the internal certification process miss that one???

Another thing that is about to pop up...anyone drive by their Fremont factory? I do often to meet with clients and cruise a bit over to their HUGE lots all over the place around the main factory...

There are pallets and pallets of parts just sitting out on the lots, parking areas and even out in the dirt. Been there a loooong time and am informed that they are going to go to jobbers to bring them up to spec...what???...am told that they were not made to spec...but were allowed to enter their stock/parts system...now they are in a urination contest between the vendor and Tesla...Tesla won't pay and now the vendors are refusing to ship anymore parts...

Got it from workers inside the fence and folks know still working in there...but for those Fan Boys who have to eyeball it from an Internet source...here is one

Tesla ships flawed parts from suppliers to a local machine shop for fixes, and they're piled up outs...



Tesla Parts Spotted Piled Outside San Jose Machine Shop



If me...I'd not accept a 'new' vehicle with these reworked parts...
-Ben Picture of my rig
1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...

time2roll
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Explorer II
Did you read the article?


"trimming mostly salaried positions."
"Tesla noted that there had been some duplication of roles and job functions as it scaled quickly."
"Tesla said no production associates were impacted by the restructuring."

Turtle_n_Peeps
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Explorer
Tesla to cut over 4,000 jobs.

Now how in the hell are you going to build a bunch more cars if you lay off 9% of your company? Fan bois, how does that work?

The fat lady is getting on stage and is spraying one of those spritzer things in her mouth! In a month or two she will be saying: Me,me,me,me,meeeeeeeeeeeeeee into the mike...โ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ...
~ Too many freaks & not enough circuses ~


"Life is not tried ~ it is merely survived ~ if you're standing
outside the fire"

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."- Abraham Lincoln

ShinerBock
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Explorer
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
Saw an "S" up close a few weeks ago and an "X" up close today.

All I can say is that other manufacturers could learn a thing or two on fitting body panels from Tesla.
Flawless.


Ha, ha, ha, you're kidding right?

Flawless I tell you; flawless....LOL

Flawless Tesla doors!

Quality #1.


You fan bois crack me up!



2014 Ram 2500 6.7L CTD
2016 BMW 2.0L diesel (work and back car)
2023 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 3.0L Ecodiesel

Highland Ridge Silverstar 378RBS

BenK
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Musk has tied EVERYTHING (except for SpaceX) together and bond debt is coming due...


Just a couple links...there are too many more...

Bloomberg, Tesla Has a Problem, and Itโ€™s Not the Model 3

Small Tesla Contractor Sues Car Maker, Claiming Nonpayment


SolarCity is in the next city over from me...stop by the car wash across the street and used to walk over to talk shop with them...no more, as they don't have many employees at their HQ...gone are the sales folks in *ALL* of the hardware stores I shop at...Lowes, HomeDepot and even the large mom'n pops. Their parking lot used to be buzzing with their trucks coming and going...now all parked and no activity...


Their cloud based system software update is seen as a fantastic method...well that is just a huge open door for the baddies out there. Hope folks understand that the keyless fob crypto passwords are now more easily stolen by the baddies... Why have disconnected the wireless garage system and gone back to a hard key system and turn off the whole system when at home


Huge debt maturity chart...a big one is SolarCity
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-03/tesla-bond-stock-extend-losses-has-musk-stopped-paying-bil...

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-Ben Picture of my rig
1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...

Turtle_n_Peeps
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Explorer
NJRVer wrote:
Saw an "S" up close a few weeks ago and an "X" up close today.

All I can say is that other manufacturers could learn a thing or two on fitting body panels from Tesla.
Flawless.


Ha, ha, ha, you're kidding right?

Flawless I tell you; flawless....LOL

Flawless Tesla doors!

Quality #1.


You fan bois crack me up!
~ Too many freaks & not enough circuses ~


"Life is not tried ~ it is merely survived ~ if you're standing
outside the fire"

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."- Abraham Lincoln

fj12ryder
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Explorer II
Well, if you assemble them by hand and only do a limited number per month and you can get things to fit well. Just ask Ferrari and Lamborghini.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"

NJRVer
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Explorer
Saw an "S" up close a few weeks ago and an "X" up close today.

All I can say is that other manufacturers could learn a thing or two on fitting body panels from Tesla.
Flawless.

time2roll
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Explorer II
I do not believe Elon stiffed anyone as the quote implied that Trump did.
Although I think both have more to the story than is presented here.

IndyCamp
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time2roll wrote:
Ending an open contract and refusing to pay for work performed are two very different issues.


OK, sure.

So, not paying a contractor for FINISHED work is unacceptable, right?


During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edwardโ€™s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resortโ€™s builder.

Edwardโ€™s son, Paul, who was the firmโ€™s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. โ€œThat began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Companyโ€ฆ which has been around since my grandfather,โ€ he said.

The reason: the money never came.

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades โ€” and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.
2018 Grand Design Reflection 315RLTS
2014 RAM 2500 6.4L HEMI

time2roll
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Explorer II
Ending an open contract and refusing to pay for work performed are two very different issues.