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1 Ton SRW Truck

MetalGator
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I am casually truck shopping (waiting for 2014 models) and trying to fit a tow vehicle to a future 5th wheel. Most of the 5er models we like are in the 9000lb-11000lb dry weight and 12000lb-14000lb GVWR. The length of the 5ers we like are anywhere from 32' to the largest 36'11". Of course the wife likes the big 36'11" model the best! It looks like all of the big 3 1 Ton SRW gas trucks can handle these weights. What weights would you consider the need for a dually? Is 36'11" to long for a SRW?

Burch
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Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
larry barnhart wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
I am close. I use the truck for alot of running around empty so I prefer the srw for that. When towing my rv I have a slight preference for a srw and when towing my gooseneck I really should be using a dually.


Our winter neighbor has a Ram 3500 short box swr maybe 2 years old and a 2 year old 36 ft 37 ft big Horn country something fifth. Not sure of the years for both but he told me the truck is all over the road towing because the goose neck hitch and some wind makes for a hard day of towing.
chevman


At least he admits that the truck is all over the road, most will say "it tows fine" !
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

larry_barnhart
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4x4ord wrote:
I am close. I use the truck for alot of running around empty so I prefer the srw for that. When towing my rv I have a slight preference for a srw and when towing my gooseneck I really should be using a dually.


Our winter neighbor has a Ram 3500 short box swr maybe 2 years old and a 2 year old 36 ft 37 ft big Horn country something fifth. Not sure of the years for both but he told me the truck is all over the road towing because the goose neck hitch and some wind makes for a hard day of towing.
chevman
chevman
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Cummins12V98
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broark01 wrote:
SRW has a lighter curb weight which makes up for some of the lost payload capacity in the area of GCWR due to the DRW's heavier curb weight. Add that to fewer tires to maintain, better fuel economy and and better winter traction I went with SRW a few years ago. Go with a dualie if you are going to tow a gooseneck or 5th wheel every day of the week.


So what you are saying is get a Dually if you want to be save all the time?
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

broark01
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SRW has a lighter curb weight which makes up for some of the lost payload capacity in the area of GCWR due to the DRW's heavier curb weight. Add that to fewer tires to maintain, better fuel economy and and better winter traction I went with SRW a few years ago. Go with a dualie if you are going to tow a gooseneck or 5th wheel every day of the week.

4x4ord
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I am close. I use the truck for alot of running around empty so I prefer the srw for that. When towing my rv I have a slight preference for a srw and when towing my gooseneck I really should be using a dually.
2023 F350 SRW Platinum short box 4x4.
B&W Companion
2008 Citation Platinum XL 34.5

Cummins12V98
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Explorer III
4x4ord wrote:
Just got home from a weekend trip with my unit. We traveled during high cross winds and I don't think I could have been more relaxed. I agree the stability thing is way over rated. The dually advantage is greater pin weight capability and it may save a few dollars on the purchase price. The SRW gets better mileage, is more maneuverable, gets better winter traction and it may make the difference as to whether or not it will fit in your garage. At about 3500 lbs pin weight you are forced to look at the dually with the new trucks.


Recently I thought you had talked your self into a Dually!
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

4x4ord
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Just got home from a weekend trip with my unit. We traveled during high cross winds and I don't think I could have been more relaxed. I agree the stability thing is way over rated. The dually advantage is greater pin weight capability and it may save a few dollars on the purchase price. The SRW gets better mileage, is more maneuverable, gets better winter traction and it may make the difference as to whether or not it will fit in your garage. At about 3500 lbs pin weight you are forced to look at the dually with the new trucks.
2023 F350 SRW Platinum short box 4x4.
B&W Companion
2008 Citation Platinum XL 34.5

dodge_guy
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Cummins12V98
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Explorer III
lawnspecialties wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
JamesBr wrote:
welcome to the overbuilt forum for RVers. I would say the only thing to watch when shopping and staying within a SRW truck would be the pin weight. Otherwise, I cannot tell the difference between my SRW and my friends DRW other then his is wider and has a lower gear for the higher GCW.


So you have towed your RV or your friends with both your TV and your friends and can honestly say there is no difference? If so you are the only one to ever say such a thing.


As I eluded to in the prior post to yours, I think the dually "stability" thing is overrated. I've pulled my Cyclone with both. Our second trip, we hit a tremendous storm with some wicked downpours. Not a problem at all.


Rain but how about big winds?
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

lawnspecialties
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
JamesBr wrote:
welcome to the overbuilt forum for RVers. I would say the only thing to watch when shopping and staying within a SRW truck would be the pin weight. Otherwise, I cannot tell the difference between my SRW and my friends DRW other then his is wider and has a lower gear for the higher GCW.


So you have towed your RV or your friends with both your TV and your friends and can honestly say there is no difference? If so you are the only one to ever say such a thing.


As I eluded to in the prior post to yours, I think the dually "stability" thing is overrated. I've pulled my Cyclone with both. Our second trip, we hit a tremendous storm with some wicked downpours. Not a problem at all.

Cummins12V98
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JamesBr wrote:
welcome to the overbuilt forum for RVers. I would say the only thing to watch when shopping and staying within a SRW truck would be the pin weight. Otherwise, I cannot tell the difference between my SRW and my friends DRW other then his is wider and has a lower gear for the higher GCW.


So you have towed your RV or your friends with both your TV and your friends and can honestly say there is no difference? If so you are the only one to ever say such a thing.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

lawnspecialties
Explorer
Explorer
My SRW '09 F350 pulled our 18,000 lb. Cyclone very, very well. But we were about 1000 lbs. overweight on the rear axle. That necessitated a dually for that reason alone.

I still wish I had an SRW instead of my dually. Just easier to drive around town, etc. Plus, stability was NEVER a problem pulling the Cyclone on the interstates. The 370C we have is almost 45' long.

Here she was the day we brought the Cyclone home. I still miss her. ๐Ÿ˜ž

mr__ed
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My 1-ton SRW truck handles my est. 12k fifth wheel just fine. When I lower the fiver onto the hitch the overload spring is barely contacted.
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modern_family
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MetalGator wrote:
JamesBr wrote:
welcome to the overbuilt forum for RVers. I would say the only thing to watch when shopping and staying within a SRW truck would be the pin weight. Otherwise, I cannot tell the difference between my SRW and my friends DRW other then his is wider and has a lower gear for the higher GCW.


The highest pin weight of the 5ers we are looking at is a little over 2000lbs dry weight. All the SRW trucks I am looking at have over 4000lbs+ payload capacity. It's the length and GVWR of the 5er that concerns me. I don't need a diesel since I only work 6 miles from the house and only put 7K miles a year on my current truck. Plus, I live in flat Florida so I don't think the gas motor will be an issue. The few times I tow out of state, I don't mind hearing the gas motor rev a bit on hills.

Burch


I love my F350 gasser purchased about 6 weeks ago, My TT is maybe 8500# soaking wet and fully loaded. She pulls great and is very sturdy and I load up the bed with about 500#-1000#'s of weight. But, if you are looking in the 11000# range plus cargo, I would strongly recommend the diesel, especially if you are looking at new as you can maintain her properly. I too am a week-end warrior and in florida and did not want a diesel, but my rig is not that heavy. The torque and power will definitely make a more comfortable pull, even on the "flats" of Florida, which still do go up and down a bit that makes an engine shift.

My next truck will be a diesel, seems they pull that much better and torque is fun to have
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His.. 2011 F-350, King Ranch, 6.2L. Crew Cab, 4x4, 8' bed, SRW, 11,000 GVWR

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