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- I have also have a FOB on an Indian Chieftain, with push button start. Didn't think about mentioning that until I read 4X4ord's comments. I never had the FOB with me when I needed it. Spent half a day trying to find it on another. Finally I just hide the FOB on the bike, easy to steal if I don't grab the FOB off of it, but better than trying to keep track of the FOB.
As for Tailgate...gate, the simplest ideas tend to most of the time being the best. The step in the bumper was an outstanding idea, use it all the time. I bought a Ranch Hand rear bumper for my '18 and while researching that, many aftermarket rear bumpers are now putting a step in them. It always works, very little money involved making it happen. The downside is if your not as nimble, have some kind of injuries than the step bumper may not be as useful. Maybe the tailgate was an effort to be easier to use for more people. I hope that by the time the 2020 HD's are released they make it an option. I don't believe a tail gate like that should be standard equipment on a work pickup. When I am 75 yoa and cant lift my leg up to a bumper step then maybe I would check that box or I would start doing Yoga. GWolfe wrote:
N-Trouble wrote:
Dadoffourgirls wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
On the 1500s that tailgate is standard in the higher trim levels.
And It looks to me like it has a very fatal flaw. Good idea. Poor execution.
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If you have something hitched, you will probably just step on the tongue to enter, and the tailgate will just open as a tailgate. I find the corner steps best anyway. Easy when the goose neck is connected, where I would not be able to use the step.
Its not about having something hitched. We all have drop hitches attached there regardless of towing or not.
Agree, this looks like a horrible idea. How many are going to bash their fancy new tailgate in when they drop it down on the hitch
I wouldn't say we all drive around with our hitches in, the only time mine is in is when I'm towing.
Not sure I'm a fan of the tailgate though, seems kind of unnecessary with the bumper step.
Also I believe it can open like a traditional tailgate without the last step dropping down.
Sorry if your an anomaly. Next time your on the freeway count the number of trucks running drop hitches while not towing. Its more the norm.- The tailgate would not be anything I would buy. More moving parts that could be damaged very easy. Simple for me is better.
chevman N-Trouble wrote:
Dadoffourgirls wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
On the 1500s that tailgate is standard in the higher trim levels.
And It looks to me like it has a very fatal flaw. Good idea. Poor execution.
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If you have something hitched, you will probably just step on the tongue to enter, and the tailgate will just open as a tailgate. I find the corner steps best anyway. Easy when the goose neck is connected, where I would not be able to use the step.
Its not about having something hitched. We all have drop hitches attached there regardless of towing or not.
Agree, this looks like a horrible idea. How many are going to bash their fancy new tailgate in when they drop it down on the hitch
I wouldn't say we all drive around with our hitches in, the only time mine is in is when I'm towing.
Not sure I'm a fan of the tailgate though, seems kind of unnecessary with the bumper step.
Also I believe it can open like a traditional tailgate without the last step dropping down.4x4ord wrote:
I appreciate every option my truck has other than push button start. Problems I have with it are:
Poor battery life;
I sometimes forget the fob in the truck;
I've driven up to my house with the fob in my coat pocket and left the truck running while I quickly ran into the house to get something. I came back without my coat on, jumped in the truck and drove into town. When I shut the truck off it said "restart immediately or key will be required". I didn't have time to go home so I ended up asking my wife to deliver my key fob to me;
If it were a zero dollar option I definitely wouldn't take it.
IF I have my FOB just setting in the truck and I turn truck off and get out leaving FOB the horn blasts a couple times. So in theory I can't lock FOB in Truck.
99% of the time the FOB is in my pocket.
I change my battery once a year, never dies.Groover wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
I appreciate every option my truck has other than push button start. Problems I have with it are:
Poor battery life;
I sometimes forget the fob in the truck;
I've driven up to my house with the fob in my coat pocket and left the truck running while I quickly ran into the house to get something. I came back without my coat on, jumped in the truck and drove into town. When I shut the truck off it said "restart immediately or key will be required". I didn't have time to go home so I ended up asking my wife to deliver my key fob to me;
If it were a zero dollar option I definitely wouldn't take it.
I have two vehicles with push button start. The Kia is almost obnoxious about making sure that you have a fob with you and not locked in the car. It is a 2011 model and I have replaced the fob battery once. The Ford also notifies me immediately about no fob in the vehicle and it is nearly 3 years old with the fob battery still going strong so no concern there either way. I do wonder what would happen if the fob got really wet or damaged somehow. The only actual issue that I have had is our luggage was stolen on a trip once with the Kia fob in it and a replacement fob was $500 plus a special trip to the dealer. Ouch! Fortunately, the other fob was safe and available to us.
My truck doesn't have keyless. I wish it did.
I travel for my job pretty much every week. Sometimes that means multiple trips and multiple rental cars. I don't know how you could forget you left the fob in the car, and I certainly don't know how you could drive off without the fob (even in the circumstances mentioned above). EVERY manufacture I have driven, and I have driven most of them, have blatant warnings to prevent such a thing.
And I don't think the fobs are any more fragile than the newer keys with a microchip. My wife ruined the key to her 300 two years ago. Looks like she spilled something on it when I opened it up to try to replace the battery, and it was dead. Chrysler wanted over $200 for a new one, and then there is a charge to program it. I found an aftermarket key on eBay for considerably less. I am sure the same will be true for the fobs.4x4ord wrote:
I appreciate every option my truck has other than push button start. Problems I have with it are:
Poor battery life;
I sometimes forget the fob in the truck;
I've driven up to my house with the fob in my coat pocket and left the truck running while I quickly ran into the house to get something. I came back without my coat on, jumped in the truck and drove into town. When I shut the truck off it said "restart immediately or key will be required". I didn't have time to go home so I ended up asking my wife to deliver my key fob to me;
If it were a zero dollar option I definitely wouldn't take it.
I have two vehicles with push button start. The Kia is almost obnoxious about making sure that you have a fob with you and not locked in the car. It is a 2011 model and I have replaced the fob battery once. The Ford also notifies me immediately about no fob in the vehicle and it is nearly 3 years old with the fob battery still going strong so no concern there either way. I do wonder what would happen if the fob got really wet or damaged somehow. The only actual issue that I have had is our luggage was stolen on a trip once with the Kia fob in it and a replacement fob was $500 plus a special trip to the dealer. Ouch! Fortunately, the other fob was safe and available to us.- I appreciate every option my truck has other than push button start. Problems I have with it are:
Poor battery life;
I sometimes forget the fob in the truck;
I've driven up to my house with the fob in my coat pocket and left the truck running while I quickly ran into the house to get something. I came back without my coat on, jumped in the truck and drove into town. When I shut the truck off it said "restart immediately or key will be required". I didn't have time to go home so I ended up asking my wife to deliver my key fob to me;
If it were a zero dollar option I definitely wouldn't take it. - I love the push button start, just have the key in your pocket and do whatever with the vehicle.
A while back the automakers added something else just crazy to all vehicles. They got rid of a perfectly good cable or lever connecting the driver to the throttle control and made them all drive by wire. Now if one of those over complicated things fail, you won't be able to drive the vehicle. What if it quits right when you are pulling out in front of traffic? Oh wait, it's a non-issue.
I can't see the push button start being any more problematic than a key would be. jaycocamprs wrote:
parker.rowe wrote:
Yep. Definitely don't need it. But it's one of those things I never realized I wanted until I had it.
Before that I was all "Push to start, thats a dumb gimmick. Who needs that?"
Like heated seats, automatic headlights, and self dimming mirrors.
And it seems like most car makers can't see the need to tie the lights to the wipers. A
FCA uconnect has a setting to turn on lights with wipers. I don't play with that setting so not sure if you need the auto headlights on for that to work or how it works when rain sense wipers are on.
I still see people leaving the yard with the drl on and no tail lights because they forgot to turn the lights on. And these are people that are supposed to know better.
