2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

[ib516]

1075 tq and 37,100# towing.

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[4x4ord]

ShinerBock wrote:
Fake news. That is an aftermarket CP3 installed to make it look like it was factory. The line with all the paint would not be that type of fitting. The factory uses quick disconnect safety lock style fittings, not a flair style fittings. Although I will give them extra credit for the quality control style paint on the fitting.

Man, people just believe anything they see on the internet these days without verifying it first.

Just like that and hope is gone.

Does the CP3 change up kit that is offered alter the CP3 to get the pressure up to 29000 psi? Because I think the kit can be installed without adding a tuner.

Then the question might become at 29000 psi will the CP# still be reliable?

[ShinerBock]

Fake news. That is an aftermarket CP3 installed to make it look like it was factory. The line with all the paint would not be that type of fitting. The factory uses quick disconnect safety lock style fittings, not a flair style fittings. Although I will give them extra credit for the quality control style paint on the fitting.

Man, people just believe anything they see on the internet these days without verifying it first.

[4x4ord]

Flan wrote:
Ram back to CP3 injection pump for 2021

Good news. I think if I was a Ram guy I would rush out and get a 2021 Ram while the getting is good. Is there any chance the High Output still has the CP4.2?

I also wonder if Bosch has upgraded the CP3 to make the 29000psi that the Cummins was asking for? Or has Cummins met emission standards with a lower pressure pump?

[Grit_dog]

^Lol!

[Flan]

Ram back to CP3 injection pump for 2021

[blofgren]

ShinerBock wrote:
Helped my old man install new injectors and sleeves on his 2003 7.3L today. And by help I mean I did 95% of the work. Man, the stuff I had to remove just to get to the valve covers. There was hardly any room on either side of the engine and the back two injectors were a pain in the arse getting the sleeves out. I can see why taking the cab off is standard practice on major repairs.

To be fair though, the back two injectors on the Cummins is a pain as well, however, I don't have to take a bunch of stuff off just to get the valve covers. It would suck if we messed up and had to take all that stuff back off again since we have to put it all back on just to turn it over to verify the job was done correctly. Luckily we(I) got his 7.3l back on the road without a hitch.

And the old trusty 7.3L is easy compared to the 6.7L Powerstroke. When we got the first 6.7L at my work a few years ago I remember looking under the hood with some of our mechanics and we all mentioned how ridiculous it was.

[Me_Again]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

blofgren wrote:
I prefill mine and install it from the top with no problems.

OMG!!!

Three RAM trucks(1993, 2001.5 and the 2015) all have had filters changed from the top and new filter pre-filled. Not a drop spilled both removing the used filter and installing the new one. Got the change the oil and filter again in the next couple weeks. Intake hose from air box to turbo removed on all three.

[Cummins12V98]

" I should be able to get the new one back in without spilling."

Getting it "back in" is not the hard part!!! Do so then remove the cap, now try to lift it one handed and screw it on without spilling a drop.

Let me know how it goes.

[CaLBaR]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"I have not pre-filled the filter on the couple of times I changed the oil but could use this plug to pre-fill and get it into place without a mess too."

Next time PLEASE attempt to unscrew the cap once the filter is dropped thru the hole. Then try to lift the filter into place and screw it on without spilling.

I am saying put one quart into the filter.

Report back.

The from the top method is free, simple and not a drop will be spilled.

You may be correct but I am thinking if I can get the full filter out with the plug without spilling then I should be able to get the new one back in without spilling. I will need to give it a try and see if I make a mess.

[ShinerBock]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
If I called my Dad "OLD MAN" I probably would not be able to type this.

He doesn't mind it. He actually called his dad that. Althouh I far exceeded him at the gym many years ago. He can barely put up 225lbs on the bench these days.

[Cummins12V98]

If I called my Dad "OLD MAN" I probably would not be able to type this.

[ShinerBock]

Helped my old man install new injectors and sleeves on his 2003 7.3L today. And by help I mean I did 95% of the work. Man, the stuff I had to remove just to get to the valve covers. There was hardly any room on either side of the engine and the back two injectors were a pain in the arse getting the sleeves out. I can see why taking the cab off is standard practice on major repairs.

To be fair though, the back two injectors on the Cummins is a pain as well, however, I don't have to take a bunch of stuff off just to get the valve covers. It would suck if we messed up and had to take all that stuff back off again since we have to put it all back on just to turn it over to verify the job was done correctly. Luckily we(I) got his 7.3l back on the road without a hitch.

[4x4ord]

blofgren wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
^^^^ It comes down to risk. Any one of these trucks can have serious problems but I would say the likelyhood of any of them requiring major engine repair before 200k miles is slim. Those who are comfortable with those odds can choose amongst the three manufacturers based on whatever criteria suits their fancy. Those paranoid that sometime over the next 10 years they might have to pay 3 extra hours of labor to R&R the cab if they buy a Ford end up having to select from two manufacturers. Finally someone who feels he needs room between the fender and block to store his football is left with only one to choose.

Aw, come on, you're envious because you can't store your football under the hood and it is a pain rolling around in the cab. :B

I think it would be quite a bit more than 3 hours labour to R&R the cab. And it also requires taking the truck to a shop that is equipped to do so, whereas you can wrench on the Cummins at home with no problem. And the last time the cab was off of my Ford, I had to take it back to have it repositioned because it was installed too far forward which left a big, ugly gap between the cab and box. Overall, it was a real PITA.

There are shops that say they can lift the cab in an hour and a half.... probably they've had lot's of experience doing 6.4s. I would be cheesed off if I had a truck off warranty that needed its cab taken off for something that should have been a minor repair as well, however, the reality is that very few 6.7 owners ever experience that kind of trouble.... The Ram salesman contacted me yesterday and hasn't given up trying to win my business .... I guess you never know maybe I will be able to keep my balls under the hood after all.

[Cummins12V98]

blofgren wrote:
I prefill mine and install it from the top with no problems.

OMG!!!

[blofgren]

4x4ord wrote:
^^^^ It comes down to risk. Any one of these trucks can have serious problems but I would say the likelyhood of any of them requiring major engine repair before 200k miles is slim. Those who are comfortable with those odds can choose amongst the three manufacturers based on whatever criteria suits their fancy. Those paranoid that sometime over the next 10 years they might have to pay 3 extra hours of labor to R&R the cab if they buy a Ford end up having to select from two manufacturers. Finally someone who feels he needs room between the fender and block to store his football is left with only one to choose.

Aw, come on, you're envious because you can't store your football under the hood and it is a pain rolling around in the cab. :B

I think it would be quite a bit more than 3 hours labour to R&R the cab. And it also requires taking the truck to a shop that is equipped to do so, whereas you can wrench on the Cummins at home with no problem. And the last time the cab was off of my Ford, I had to take it back to have it repositioned because it was installed too far forward which left a big, ugly gap between the cab and box. Overall, it was a real PITA.