2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

[ib516]

1075 tq and 37,100# towing.

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[blofgren]

I prefill mine and install it from the top with no problems.

[Cummins12V98]

"I have not pre-filled the filter on the couple of times I changed the oil but could use this plug to pre-fill and get it into place without a mess too."

Next time PLEASE attempt to unscrew the cap once the filter is dropped thru the hole. Then try to lift the filter into place and screw it on without spilling.

I am saying put one quart into the filter.

Report back.

The from the top method is free, simple and not a drop will be spilled.

[Cummins12V98]

Grit dog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:


Do you pre fill your filter?

He!! no!
Good way to make a mess. Nother old wives tale.

Didn't ask you. 😉 But the fact is Cummins recommends that be done.

[CaLBaR]

Flashman wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

blofgren wrote:

That is about the only advantage the Powerstroke has over the Cummins from a service/repair perspective. Now that I've changed the oil in my truck a few times, I'm actually pretty quick at changing the oil filter from the top with no mess.

I'll take that over removing the cab to do just about everything else (the cab was off my 6.0L PSD twice). 😉

Yeah, for something that I only have to do once a year or every 15k(versus 10k), it is not a big deal. I just use some plastic shrink wrap to cover the filter as I take it out from the fender well to keep it from spilling. Works like a charm.

I have a screw on plug from amazon that helps the oil filter through the fender well easy. After the 1st time I find changing the oil on my Ram a breeze.

I use this as well and makes changing the oil easy peasy. I have not pre-filled the filter on the couple of times I changed the oil but could use this plug to pre-fill and get it into place without a mess too.

[Grit_dog]

Cummins12V98 wrote:


Do you pre fill your filter?

He!! no!
Good way to make a mess. Nother old wives tale.

[Grit_dog]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
FISH how bout posting a pic looking into your engine compartment.

LIKE

[Cummins12V98]

Flashman wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

blofgren wrote:

That is about the only advantage the Powerstroke has over the Cummins from a service/repair perspective. Now that I've changed the oil in my truck a few times, I'm actually pretty quick at changing the oil filter from the top with no mess.

I'll take that over removing the cab to do just about everything else (the cab was off my 6.0L PSD twice). 😉

Yeah, for something that I only have to do once a year or every 15k(versus 10k), it is not a big deal. I just use some plastic shrink wrap to cover the filter as I take it out from the fender well to keep it from spilling. Works like a charm.

I have a screw on plug from amazon that helps the oil filter through the fender well easy. After the 1st time I find changing the oil on my Ram a breeze.

Do you pre fill your filter?

[Flashman]

ShinerBock wrote:

blofgren wrote:

That is about the only advantage the Powerstroke has over the Cummins from a service/repair perspective. Now that I've changed the oil in my truck a few times, I'm actually pretty quick at changing the oil filter from the top with no mess.

I'll take that over removing the cab to do just about everything else (the cab was off my 6.0L PSD twice). 😉

Yeah, for something that I only have to do once a year or every 15k(versus 10k), it is not a big deal. I just use some plastic shrink wrap to cover the filter as I take it out from the fender well to keep it from spilling. Works like a charm.

I have a screw on plug from amazon that helps the oil filter through the fender well easy. After the 1st time I find changing the oil on my Ram a breeze.

[Cummins12V98]

FISH how bout posting a pic looking into your engine compartment.

[Cummins12V98]

ShinerBock wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:


No special tools FISH. Simply use a 5/16" and 10mm socket to remove the air tube from the air filter to turbo and reach in and R&R the filter with not a drop spilled. Also a easy to check the turbo for play.

I would also take only having to change my oil filter 13 times over the course of 200k miles instead of 20.

Good point!

[ShinerBock]

Cummins12V98 wrote:


No special tools FISH. Simply use a 5/16" and 10mm socket to remove the air tube from the air filter to turbo and reach in and R&R the filter with not a drop spilled. Also a easy to check the turbo for play.

I would also take only having to change my oil filter 13 times over the course of 200k miles instead of 20.

[Cummins12V98]

FishOnOne wrote:

Me Again wrote:
For all my 60 years of owning and driving many vehicles I have always done my oil/filter changes with very few exceptions. Then last summer DW 2004 Buick Rainier 5.3 V8 was totaled by a red light runner. We bought a Ford Edge ST with the 2.7L twin turbo V6. I have to take Ford word on the face that there are twin turbos under the hook as just about every square inch is something under the hood. I could not even find a route out of the bottom of the engine bay to run out the power cord for the battery maintainer when we stored it for the winter up North. I had the dealer do an oil/filter change before we left with points we got when we purchased it, and will most likely continue doing that. It is not that I am not capable, as I changed the oil in the two year old Can Am Spyder we purcahsed 7 weeks ago, which involve removing a lot of tupperware body panels. It is just the Ford Edge seems to have a big virtual circle with a diagonal red line on it on top of the engine similar to the Power Stroke and Duramax.

I have a little over 200k miles on my 6.7 Power Stroke and never had to do any engine repairs, but I do have to change the oil on it and I actually enjoy it and I know which one I would prefer to perform an oil change on and doesn't require any special tools to prevent a big mess

No special tools FISH. Simply use a 5/16" and 10mm socket to remove the air tube from the air filter to turbo and reach in and R&R the filter with not a drop spilled. Also a easy to check the turbo for play.

[ShinerBock]

blofgren wrote:

That is about the only advantage the Powerstroke has over the Cummins from a service/repair perspective. Now that I've changed the oil in my truck a few times, I'm actually pretty quick at changing the oil filter from the top with no mess.

I'll take that over removing the cab to do just about everything else (the cab was off my 6.0L PSD twice). 😉

Yeah, for something that I only have to do once a year or every 15k(versus 10k), it is not a big deal. I just use some plastic shrink wrap to cover the filter as I take it out from the fender well to keep it from spilling. Works like a charm.

[4x4ord]

^^^^ It comes down to risk. Any one of these trucks can have serious problems but I would say the likelyhood of any of them requiring major engine repair before 200k miles is slim. Those who are comfortable with those odds can choose amongst the three manufacturers based on whatever criteria suits their fancy. Those paranoid that sometime over the next 10 years they might have to pay 3 extra hours of labor to R&R the cab if they buy a Ford end up having to select from two manufacturers. Finally someone who feels he needs room between the fender and block to store his football is left with only one to choose.

[blofgren]

FishOnOne wrote:

Me Again wrote:
For all my 60 years of owning and driving many vehicles I have always done my oil/filter changes with very few exceptions. Then last summer DW 2004 Buick Rainier 5.3 V8 was totaled by a red light runner. We bought a Ford Edge ST with the 2.7L twin turbo V6. I have to take Ford word on the face that there are twin turbos under the hook as just about every square inch is something under the hood. I could not even find a route out of the bottom of the engine bay to run out the power cord for the battery maintainer when we stored it for the winter up North. I had the dealer do an oil/filter change before we left with points we got when we purchased it, and will most likely continue doing that. It is not that I am not capable, as I changed the oil in the two year old Can Am Spyder we purcahsed 7 weeks ago, which involve removing a lot of tupperware body panels. It is just the Ford Edge seems to have a big virtual circle with a diagonal red line on it on top of the engine similar to the Power Stroke and Duramax.

I have a little over 200k miles on my 6.7 Power Stroke and never had to do any engine repairs, but I do have to change the oil on it and I actually enjoy it and I know which one I would prefer to perform an oil change on and doesn't require any special tools to prevent a big mess

That is about the only advantage the Powerstroke has over the Cummins from a service/repair perspective. Now that I've changed the oil in my truck a few times, I'm actually pretty quick at changing the oil filter from the top with no mess.

I'll take that over removing the cab to do just about everything else (the cab was off my 6.0L PSD twice). 😉